There's a caveat.  When unregistered, the DN's CFNA setting is
inherited.  If a remote phone has CFNA to VM (or anything else) in
normal operation, it cannot be reached internally during SRST mode.
SRST is really outbound only, as users will not know to dial 9 + DID.

For example:
BR1's WAN fails and phones register with SRST router.  HQ phone calls
2001 and goes straight to voicemail.  The only way to reach 2001 in SRST
mode is to call the off-net DID, but the HQ user wouldn't think to do
this.

In 4.2, there's a separate setting for Call Forward Unregistered, which
can be set to 9 + DID.

Does anyone know of any clever ways around this?

Greg Jost
Network Consulting Engineer
Unified Communications Practice
Cisco Systems, Inc.
214-274-1922
 

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vik Malhi
Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 3:12 PM
To: 'Jonathan Charles'
Cc: 'CCIE Voice'
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Dial Plan design question, AAR with
vmail...

AAR cannot be "down" and AAR can't deny a call. Your entire CallManager
cluster is either unavailable (SRST is the solution) or it is available
(AAR
being the solution when the WAN is saturated). If CallManager is active
and
alive then AAR cannot fail unless off course it is misconfigured or you
are
out of B-channels on your PSTN connection.

Assuming the CallManager is operational and the remote sites phones and
gateway are still registered then AAR is the solution for when Locations
CAC
blocks the call. So on the remote phon you hit the "Messages" button and
CallManager determines there is no Locations bandwidth available. The
External Number Mask and AAR Group needs to be configured on the Hunt
Pilot
for Voicemail. The AAR CSS and AAR Group needs to be configured on the
calling (remote) phone. Also in the case of a Call Forward from the
remote
phone, the remote gateway needs an AAR CSS and AAR Group (+Redirecting #
outbound).

Assuming the CallManager is not available (WAN outage) then SRST is your
only option. Nothing on CallManager works including AAR.


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-----Original Message-----
From: Jonathan Charles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 1:01 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Onur Tufekci; CCIE Voice
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Dial Plan design question, AAR with
vmail...

what I meant was SRST config to reroute the call if AAR is down...

So, if I am at the remote site, AAR is denying calls and I hit the
messages
button, what are my options?



Jonathan

On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 2:57 PM, Vik Malhi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You can configure both- but only one of AAR and SRST will be active at

> any  one point. When the WAN is saturated signaling still traverses 
> the WAN. When  there is a WAN outage then you lose signaling to the 
> remote sites and SRST  kicks in. From your original question you 
> indicate that SRST might be a  solution for AAR which it isn't.
>
>
>
>  Vik Malhi - CCIE #13890
>  Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.
>
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>
> -----Original Message-----
>  From: Jonathan Charles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 12:41 PM
>  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  Cc: Onur Tufekci; CCIE Voice
>  Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Dial Plan design question, AAR with
vmail...
>
>  Well the goal is two-fold.
>
>  First, if the WAN is saturated, someone at HQ, should be able to call
>  BR2 via the PSTN (using AAR), and a CFNA/CFB should route back to 
> vmail and  the correct box
>
>  In the event of a WAN outage, the phones in SRST should also CFNA/CFB

> to  voicemail and the correct box
>
>
>
>
>  Jonathan
>
>  On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 2:23 PM, Vik Malhi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>  >
>  >
>  > Good point- AAR requires you to configure an AAR CSS, AAR Group on 
> the  > remote site gateway in addition to checking the Redirecting 
> Number  > Outbound checkbox (if this is MGCP then no mgcp/mgcp on the 
> IOS). You  > need to check the Redirecting Number Inbound checkbox on 
> the HQ  > gateway. You also need an external number mask and aar group

> on the  > hunt pilot. It should work a treat having done this. The 
> Redirecting  > Number is good since CCM builds this in the case of 
> AAR. Only SRST  > needs a workaround solution to get the caller to
hear
subscriber greeting.
>  >
>  > The SRST solution was outlined in a previous email.
>  >
>  > Don't overlap the two questions/solutions since they are mutually  
> exclusive.
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > Vik Malhi - CCIE #13890
>  > Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.
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> Voice Lab and CCIE Storage Lab Certifications.
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>  >
>  >  ________________________________
>  >  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Onur  
> > Tufekci  > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 12:12 PM  >  > To: 
> Jonathan Charles  > Cc: CCIE Voice  > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] 
> Dial Plan design question, AAR with  vmail...
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > Are you trying to configure  only AAR or only SRST?
>  >
>  >
>  > On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 2:03 PM, Jonathan Charles 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  wrote:
>  >
>  > > OK, so AAR kicks in and I forward the call to the PSTN, the user 
> I  > > was dialing does not answer and the call should forward to
vmail...
>  > > how would we make this work? voicemail under srst config?
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > Jonathan
>  > >
>  >
>  >
>
>

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