I'm missing the point why we need the AAR CSS and AAR group on the remote GW for redirected calls?
Cheers, Juan -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan Charles Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 10:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: CCIE Voice Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Dial Plan design question, AAR with vmail... That makes sense... Now, what about when a GK denies the call to insufficient bandwidth? The only thing I can think of is to put an H.323 gateway second the route-list for the GK-controlled trunk (from CCM) and turn off the stop hunting on unallocated/busy/etc... Jonathan On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 3:12 PM, Vik Malhi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > AAR cannot be "down" and AAR can't deny a call. Your entire > CallManager cluster is either unavailable (SRST is the solution) or > it is available (AAR being the solution when the WAN is saturated). > If CallManager is active and alive then AAR cannot fail unless off > course it is misconfigured or you are out of B-channels on your PSTN connection. > > Assuming the CallManager is operational and the remote sites phones > and gateway are still registered then AAR is the solution for when > Locations CAC blocks the call. So on the remote phon you hit the > "Messages" button and CallManager determines there is no Locations > bandwidth available. The External Number Mask and AAR Group needs to > be configured on the Hunt Pilot for Voicemail. The AAR CSS and AAR > Group needs to be configured on the calling (remote) phone. Also in > the case of a Call Forward from the remote phone, the remote gateway > needs an AAR CSS and AAR Group (+Redirecting # outbound). > > Assuming the CallManager is not available (WAN outage) then SRST is > your only option. Nothing on CallManager works including AAR. > > > > Vik Malhi - CCIE #13890 > Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc. > > Telephone: +1.810.326.1444 > Fax: +1.810.454.0130 > Mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Join our free online support and peer group communities: > http://www.IPexpert.com/communities > > IPexpert - The Global Leader in Self-Study, Classroom-Based, > Video-On-Demand and Audio Certification Training Tools for the Cisco > CCIE R&S Lab, CCIE Security Lab, CCIE Service Provider Lab , CCIE > Voice Lab and CCIE Storage Lab Certifications. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jonathan Charles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 1:01 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: Onur Tufekci; CCIE Voice > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Dial Plan design question, AAR with vmail... > > what I meant was SRST config to reroute the call if AAR is down... > > So, if I am at the remote site, AAR is denying calls and I hit the > messages button, what are my options? > > > > Jonathan > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 2:57 PM, Vik Malhi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You can configure both- but only one of AAR and SRST will be active > at > any one point. When the WAN is saturated signaling still > traverses > the WAN. When there is a WAN outage then you lose > signaling to the > remote sites and SRST kicks in. From your > original question you > indicate that SRST might be a solution for AAR which it isn't. > > > > > > > > Vik Malhi - CCIE #13890 > > Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc. > > > > Telephone: +1.810.326.1444 > > Fax: +1.810.454.0130 > > Mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Join our free online support and peer group communities: > > http://www.IPexpert.com/communities > > > > IPexpert - The Global Leader in Self-Study, Classroom-Based, > > Video-On-Demand and Audio Certification Training Tools for the Cisco > > CCIE R&S Lab, CCIE Security Lab, CCIE Service Provider Lab , CCIE > > Voice Lab and CCIE Storage Lab Certifications. > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jonathan Charles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: > Wednesday, April 16, 2008 12:41 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: > Onur Tufekci; CCIE Voice > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Dial Plan > design question, AAR with vmail... > > > > Well the goal is two-fold. > > > > First, if the WAN is saturated, someone at HQ, should be able to > call > BR2 via the PSTN (using AAR), and a CFNA/CFB should route > back to > vmail and the correct box > > In the event of a WAN > outage, the phones in SRST should also CFNA/CFB > to voicemail and > the correct box > > > > > Jonathan > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 > at 2:23 PM, Vik Malhi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Good point- AAR requires you to configure an AAR CSS, AAR Group > on > the > remote site gateway in addition to checking the > Redirecting > Number > Outbound checkbox (if this is MGCP then no > mgcp/mgcp on the > IOS). You > need to check the Redirecting Number > Inbound checkbox on > the HQ > gateway. You also need an external > number mask and aar group > on the > hunt pilot. It should work a > treat having done this. The > Redirecting > Number is good since CCM > builds this in the case of > AAR. Only SRST > needs a workaround > solution to get the caller to hear subscriber greeting. > > > > > > The SRST solution was outlined in a previous email. > > > > > > Don't overlap the two questions/solutions since they are > mutually > exclusive. > > > > > > > > > > > > Vik Malhi - CCIE #13890 > > > Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc. > > > > > > Telephone: +1.810.326.1444 > > > Fax: +1.810.454.0130 > > > Mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Join our free online support and peer group communities: > > > http://www.IPexpert.com/communities > > > > > > IPexpert - The Global Leader in Self-Study, Classroom-Based, > > > Video-On-Demand and Audio Certification Training Tools for the Cisco > > > CCIE R&S Lab, CCIE Security Lab, CCIE Service Provider Lab , CCIE > > > Voice Lab and CCIE Storage Lab Certifications. > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Onur > > Tufekci > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 12:12 PM > > To: > > Jonathan Charles > Cc: CCIE Voice > Subject: Re: [OSL | > CCIE_Voice] > Dial Plan design question, AAR with vmail... > > > > > > > > > > > > Are you trying to configure only AAR or only SRST? > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 2:03 PM, Jonathan Charles > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > > OK, so AAR kicks in and I forward the call to the PSTN, the > user > I > > was dialing does not answer and the call should forward to vmail... > > > > how would we make this work? voicemail under srst config? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jonathan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
