***  For details on how to be removed from this list visit the  ***
***          CCP4 home page http://www.ccp4.ac.uk         ***


Hi David - Check out

Yang F, Dauter Z, Wlodawer A.   Effects of crystal twinning on the ability to 
solve a macromolecular structure using multiwavelength anomalous diffraction.
Acta Crystallogr D Biol Crystallogr. 2000 Aug;56(Pt 8):959-64. 
PMID: 10944332 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

and

Ban N, Nissen P, Hansen J, Capel M, Moore PB, Steitz TA.        Placement of 
protein and RNA structures into a 5 A-resolution map of the 50S ribosomal 
subunit.
Nature. 1999 Aug 26;400(6747):841-7.  and related papers

Which provides a nice description of the P21 / C2221 twinning issue and also 
some ways of resolving it.

J 

Eleanor Dodson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In this space group with |a| ~ equal |c| you could have a twinning 
> matrix l.-k,h
> You should have been offered the possibility of processing the data with
> point group  Cmmm
> did that give a reasonable Rsym?
> 
> And you would expect to see some 2 fold symmetry in the h0l h1l etc 
> sections - look at these with hklview.
> 
> The newest SFCHECK will also do a twinning test with the above operator
> Eleanor
> 
> 
> David Schwefel wrote:
> 
> >***  For details on how to be removed from this list visit the  ***
> >***          CCP4 home page http://www.ccp4.ac.uk         ***
> >
> >
> >Hi there!
> >I have a problem during refinement of apparently good data...
> >the protein crystallised in space group P21 with following cell parameters:
> >44.5 86.5 44.6 90 112.5 90
> >the crystal diffracted up to 1.5 A and the diffraction pattern looked very
> >good
> >
> >some statistics from the CORRECT.LP:
> >
> >Res. Range         I/sigma(I)  Chi²     R obs   R exp   refl. accepted rej.
> >43.162   1.498     8.56        1.00      4.91    5.35  139902  138325   750
> >
> >after Molrep, rigid body and restrained refinement with ccp4, the R factor
> >is still around 40 % and won't go further down, and there are some regions
> >where the density looks really bad...
> >I read that twinning could be an explanation so i checked <I²>/<I>² which
> >ranges from 1.75 to 2 depending on the resolution, which means that the
> >crystal is twinned.
> >As far as I understood is it possible to detwin the data if you know the
> >symmetry between and the relative fractions of the twin domains, but I only
> >found possible twin laws for higher symmetry crystals.
> >Has anyone a clue or some reference how to proceed with this data (which
> >looked so fine in the beginning...)?
> >
> >thanks in advance, 
> >David
> >
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> ---------------
> 
> Attachment: ccp4.vcf 
> MIME Type: text/x-vcard
> Size: 208 bytes

Reply via email to