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Dear All,

     Could anyone please point me to similar references for P61/P6122
twinning issues, on similar lines suggested for P21/C2221 by James ?
   
     Thanks in advance.

natesh

R. Natesh
IGBMC

On Tue, 23 May 2006, James Whisstock wrote:

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> Hi David - Check out
> 
 > Yang F, Dauter Z, Wlodawer A.        Effects of crystal twinning on the
 ability to solve a macromolecular structure using multiwavelength
 anomalous diffraction.
 > Acta Crystallogr D Biol Crystallogr. 2000 Aug;56(Pt 8):959-64. 
 > PMID: 10944332 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
> 
> and
> 
> Ban N, Nissen P, Hansen J, Capel M, Moore PB, Steitz TA.      Placement of 
> protein and RNA structures into a 5 A-resolution map of the 50S ribosomal 
> subunit.
> Nature. 1999 Aug 26;400(6747):841-7.  and related papers
> 
 > Which provides a nice description of the P21 / C2221 twinning issue and
 also some ways of resolving it.
> 
> J 
> 
> Eleanor Dodson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > In this space group with |a| ~ equal |c| you could have a twinning 
> > matrix l.-k,h
> > You should have been offered the possibility of processing the data with
> > point group  Cmmm
> > did that give a reasonable Rsym?
> > 
> > And you would expect to see some 2 fold symmetry in the h0l h1l etc 
> > sections - look at these with hklview.
> > 
> > The newest SFCHECK will also do a twinning test with the above operator
> > Eleanor
> > 
> > 
> > David Schwefel wrote:
> > 
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> > >Hi there!
> > >I have a problem during refinement of apparently good data...
> > >the protein crystallised in space group P21 with following cell parameters:
> > >44.5 86.5 44.6 90 112.5 90
> > >the crystal diffracted up to 1.5 A and the diffraction pattern looked very
> > >good
> > >
> > >some statistics from the CORRECT.LP:
> > >
> > >Res. Range         I/sigma(I)  Chi²     R obs   R exp   refl. accepted rej.
> > >43.162   1.498     8.56        1.00      4.91    5.35  139902  138325   750
> > >
> > >after Molrep, rigid body and restrained refinement with ccp4, the R factor
> > >is still around 40 % and won't go further down, and there are some regions
> > >where the density looks really bad...
> > >I read that twinning could be an explanation so i checked <I²>/<I>² which
> > >ranges from 1.75 to 2 depending on the resolution, which means that the
> > >crystal is twinned.
> > >As far as I understood is it possible to detwin the data if you know the
> > >symmetry between and the relative fractions of the twin domains, but I only
> > >found possible twin laws for higher symmetry crystals.
> > >Has anyone a clue or some reference how to proceed with this data (which
> > >looked so fine in the beginning...)?
> > >
> > >thanks in advance, 
> > >David
> > >
> > >
> > >
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