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Jay Thompson schrieb:
Hi All,

We have crystals (0.2 x 0.2 x 0.2 mm) that belong to the spacegroup C2, with a unit cell of 310 A x 290 A x 230 A, 90 102 90 and diffracts rather poorly at ~4 angstroms. We're trying to collect a Hg and Pt-SAD datasets, since a MAD dataset is likely not feasible. So far I've collected data on a couple of crystals (~45 minutes of total exposure time, Rsym= 0.14, I/sig(I)=7.0, redundancy=4). and I'm having trouble detecting any anomalous peaks in the Harker sections using the programs in CCP4. It looks like these crystals are exhibiting radiation decay (based on unit cell length, scale factor, and mosaicity increases), after ~10-15 minutes of exposure time on a 2nd generation synchrotron (like SSRL or ALS). If anyone has any wonderful strategies to collect SAD data on weakly/poorly diffracting and radiation sensitive crystals, that would be great!!

I need to decrease the exposure time on the crystal to be able to collect a complete dataset with some anomalous signal. However, I'm worried that if I decrease the exposure time the signal-to-noise would suffer and I would still have trouble finding an anomalous peak in the Harker section (although redundancy should increase signal-to-noise). Which is better in terms of improving signal to noise for SAD or MAD datasets? Would people recommend to keep the exposure time short and just collect lots of images to increase redundancy and signal-to-noise or increase exposure time but have a less redundant dataset. So I guess the question comes down to whether multiple weak reflections is better than one strong reflections for SAD? Does anyone have any nice strategies for estimating/optimizing the exposure time for SAD/MAD datasets? Also do people still like to collect inverse beam for C2 spacegroups? Any comments would be greatly appreciated. Thank you very much.

JT

Jay,

my advice is: redundancy is most important because it gives you more choices
a) you can (a posteriori) cut your dataset at the most appropriate frame if raddam is too large (use R_d to find out about the amount of raddam) b) zero-dose (or rather the more robust quarter-dose) extrapolation needs redundancy

My rules of thumb are:
- always collect 180° if the space group is tetragonal (unless 422), trigonal, orthorhombic, monoclinic. >180° if triclinic. - either (preferred at least for MAD) one pass without (or few) overloads, or: low-exposure pass first(!), strong-exposure afterwards
- don't go above 0.5° in delta-phi

HTH,

Kay
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