Joe,

What your are describing is microcrystal formation. The silkiness or "opalescence" is very typical of microcrystalline showers. Concerning the effect of DTT, I recall one other case where DTT- sensitive microcrystals formed: the crystalline insecticidal toxins produced by B. thuringiensis, which are used as specific insecticides. Although I can't recall the details, possible disulfide bridge formation occurred during crystal formation. Jade Li solved its structure awhile ago (Li, Koni, and Ellar, J. Mol. Biol. 257, 129–152, 1996) and noted:

"Crystals of the CytB protoxin were grown (Li et al., 1995) by microdialysis in the presence of 5 mM dithiothreitol (DTT), by reducing the pH from 8.5 to 7.2 and at the same time reducing the concentration of a solubilizing agent, either urea from 50 mM to nil, or ethanolamine from 8 mM to 3 mM. The presence of either urea or ethanolamine was required, together with DTT, to control protein aggregation."

Hope that this helps,

Michael

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On Nov 13, 2007, at 4:09 PM, Joe wrote:
The other possibility is 400 mM imidazole in the buffer. The
precipitate looks like silk.

On 11/13/07, Bryan W. Lepore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
you didn't say how you know its protein - is it?

interesting though.




On Nov 13, 2007, at 4:13 PM, Joe wrote:

The precipitate does not disappear automaticly if I don't add DTT.
If it's the precipitate of imidazole, then why DTT can dissolve it?
thanks

On 11/13/07, Sanishvili, Ruslan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
This may not apply in your case but it is not uncommon for a protein to
"precipitate" in a microcrystalline shower when put in cold. Once it
worms up, the crystals dissolve and the precipitate clears up. It is
easy to check under a high magnification microscope.
Cheers,
N.


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-----Original Message-----
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Joe
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Subject: [ccp4bb] DTT sensitive?

Hi there,
I see enormous precipitate of my receptor protein when I take it out of freezer. But all the precipitate dissolved quickly after I added 1mM DTT
to the solution. Does this mean that some surface Cys are causing
problem? Or why is the protein so sensitive to DTT?
Anybody experienced this kind?
Any advice is appreciated.
-Joe



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