In this case, XDS-processed data is clearly twinned, if one were to believe moments and the cumulative intensity distribution calculated by truncate (and everyone should - channelling Dr. Dodson).

Why I'm worried about XDS separating relatively overlapped spots is the funny intensity stats that may result from this (as George Sheldrick and Martin Hallberg has pointed out)? The incomplete HKL2000-processed data (70%) still has intermediate values for the intensity stats, leaning towards twinning. This somewhat agrees with twinning, but not overzealous data integration.

Engin

P.S. If twinning (perfect in this case) is taken into account structure refines to 20/26% R at 2.8 Ang., unlike in Martin's case. Without twinning, numbers are 29/33%.

Quoting "George M. Sheldrick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

All SHELX programs and XPREP are also indifferent to the asu choice
and to whether the data have been merged or not (even SHELX-76). It
is CCP4 historical baggage and high time it was eliminated.

On the official thread of this discussion, my impression is that 3D
integration programs (like XDS) are able to handle overlapping
reflections better than 2D integration programs, as one would expect.
One simple test is the mean value of |E^2-1|; if is is too small,
you either have twinning or reflection overlap. Unfortunately and
surprisingly XDS often fails this test (especially if the data have
been flattened with XSCALE),

George

On Thu, 21 Feb 2008, Peter Zwart wrote:

<vloeken in de kerk>
or use phenix, which is indifferent to format and asu choice.
</vloeken in de kerk>

P


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