Dear Pietro,

Thank you very much for sharing your thoughts. I am presuming that you were 
thinking about microcapillary feeding to reduce the evaporation of the film on 
the loop. Yes, this is a problem esp. with drops with high salt or alcohol. If 
there is a way to feed the loop using microcapillary that would be great. Our 
current design prepares and places the film on the loop in a closed system.

Our initial results of the crystallization on loops were presented in one of 
the Advances in Protein Crystallography workshops.

Kind regards,
Mathews


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Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 1:36 AM
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Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Crystals grown directly on loop?

Dear Jacob and Mathew,

                one night at the pub a few months ago a colleague and I had 
been thinking along similar lines but we were rather envisaging 
microcapillaries feeding the mother liquor components into the loop at 
controlled rates from the stem ... expensive hi-tech loops to be sure but maybe 
not so in a few years should technology stay with us for longer. Time will tell.

Good luck with your efforts!

Pietro 
> Dear Jacob,
> 
> We have been working on this for an year or so. We have a paper partially in 
> the review process. Unfortunately, the referees were not very excited about 
> the idea. However, we are developing some automation to speed up the time 
> consuming process of placing the drops on the loops.
> 
> This method seems to have some advantges and some issues in using the known 
> crystallization conditions. This could also give trouble with solutions 
> containing volatile compounds. 
> 
> Kind regards,
> Mathews
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> Jacob Keller
> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 1:14 PM
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> Subject: [ccp4bb] Crystals grown directly on loop?
> 
> Dear crystallographers,
> 
> Has anyone ever tried to grow crystals directly on some kind of mountable 
> support, such as some kind of loop or film, which could be frozen directly? 
> I understand that there are some microfluidic plates through which the 
> crystals can be diffraction-screened, but what about for more conventional, 
> known crystallization conditions? It seems that this would be a spectacular 
> way to decrease damages/stresses caused by handling...
> 
> Jacob Keller
> 
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