I understand you want to use in situ diffraction for assigning scores, but I guess it is still useful to visually inspect drop images before you decide to go to a synchrotron, no? So let me rephrase the question and ask whether users see any added benefit of using an iPad for decision making on 'going to a synchrotron/buying Marcus's PX scanner' or not.

Thank you for the private posts indicating we now have a good excuse to buy iPads from research grants. Unfortunately for the PI's, we may have to buy them for all lab members now. Would also be interested to find out if there are any members of the crystallography community that have experience in writing iPad apps.

Cheers.
-C

On Apr 18, 2011, at 10:23 AM, ferrer wrote:

I agree with Marcus that the most relevant scoring is the X-ray analysis, that can now be done in situ.

Just I would like to mention the G-Rob system we developed for that on BM30A at ESRF, now commercialized by NatX-ray (www.natx-ray.com). With G-Rob, you can not only screen in situ, but also collect complete dataset "in plate" (and also on frozen samples, capillaries, ...)!
See         http://www.natx-ray.com/products/clip_IE_March2010.html

Best Regards

JL

PS: G-Rob is available on beamline BM30A at ESRF. Don't hesitate to ask for beamtime.

On 04/18/2011 10:00 AM, Marcus Winter wrote:




Dear Chris,


I’m prompted by your posting just to mention the Agilent Technologies
PX Scanner ‘Crystal Challenge’ at:

www.agilent.com/chem/crystalchallenge

Thus, the only really useful assessment, or ‘score’, of objects (putative crystals) – or crystallisation conditions, is by the actual observed diffraction characteristics... and these preferably directly in situ, in the horizontal
crystallisation plate, as achieved in the PX Scanner.


Many Thanks and Best Regards,

Marcus Winter (Agilent Technologies)


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From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chris Ulens
Sent: 18 April 2011 08:24
To: [email protected]
Subject: [ccp4bb] viewing and scoring crystallization drops on the iPad

Our laboratory has been developing an application to view and score crystallization drops on the iPad. We would like to know if crystallographers see potential benefits from the functionality of the iPad to swipe and pinch through drops. We are looking for specific comments from Formulatrix users, but other users are also welcome to comment.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LezurNhm0pA



Specific ideas for future development are:
- composition of crystallization buffers on a back-flip of the image drop - back-sync of crystallization scores on the iPad with the image database
- emailing a drop image to colleague


Thanks.
-Chris

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