Hey, that was my post! NB this cannot be used for native gels, I don't
think.

Jacob

On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 9:47 AM, Cécile Breyton <[email protected]>wrote:

> Hi Ed,
>
> A few years back there has been a thread on copper staining that leads to
> "negative staining", but works well, is very fast and simple.
>
> - Rinse gel 10-30s in H2O
> - incubate in 300 mM CuCl2. The gel stains in 3-5 min: background becomes
> opaque, the protein bands remain clear. Sensibility is as good (slightly
> better) than Coomassie.
>
> The gel can be stored in H2O (but proteins diffuse after a while),
> destained for other staining (Coomassie, silver...), by incubation in 50 mM
> EDTA 5-10 min.
>
> CuCl2 and EDTA solutions can be re-used.
>
> Discard Cu in appropriate waste.
>
> From Lee et al, 1987, Anal. Biochem 166, 308-312.
>
> Cécile
>
>
> Le 15/03/12 15:24, Thomas Edwards a écrit :
>
>  Dear BB,
>>
>> Apologies for being mildly off topic.
>> Maybe.
>>
>>
>>  1.  We are trying to express (in E. coli) a protein which appears to be
>> quite sensitive to mechanical disruption. We have ordered some B-PER
>> (Pierce - "B-PER Bacterial Protein Extraction Reagents are designed to
>> extract soluble protein from bacterial cells without harsh chemicals or
>> mechanical procedures like sonication"), but would like to try a variety of
>> similar things if possible. Any advice from the community out there?
>> Anybody know what goes into B-PER or similar things (I know there's some
>> Dnase and lysosyme in there – but which detergents are compatible with Ni,
>> GST, how much do you need etc)??
>>  2.  Staining SDS gels. There are various concerns from lab members about
>> safety re methanol in stains, microwaving stains etc etc. "Instant Blue"
>> claims to have none of these problems.  Quote: "Protein gel staining takes
>> around 15 minutes without the need to wash, fix, microwave or destain". But
>> again, I'd like to try things to see if they work for us (before spending
>> cash - yes, I am spending averse…!). Anybody any suggestions for quick,
>> non-fix, non-methanol, non-microwave, non–destain protein gel stains? Have
>> tried home made colloidal coomassie but our protocol still requires fixes
>> and washes that made it not really worth while.
>>
>> Happy to collate thoughts on replies offline and post summary.
>>
>> Many thanks
>> Ed
>>
>> T.A.Edwards Ph.D.
>> Deputy Director Astbury Centre for Structural Molecular Biology
>> Lecturer in Biochemistry
>> Garstang 8.53d
>> University of Leeds, Leeds, LS2 9JT
>> Telephone: 0113 343 3031
>> http://www.bmb.leeds.ac.uk/**staff/tae/<http://www.bmb.leeds.ac.uk/staff/tae/>
>> -- No one should approach the temple of science with the soul of a money
>> changer.  ~Thomas Browne
>>
>>
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