Are you trying to have Coot display the Zn-ligand bonds? That's a different issue from having refmac recognize and use the metal-ligand restraints in refinement. (I don't bother to have Coot do this.) Looking at your environment distances, it looks like refmac has done a restrained refinement, as your Zn-ligand bond distances look right. You can tell in the refmac log file if you get a message describing that a Zn-ligand distance was found and it is not listed as "not be used." (If you get this latter message, you have the wrong link usage setting chosen in the CCP4i GUI.) I just had an undergraduate student do the procedure yesterday to do a restrained refinement for a ZnCys2HisAsp environment. Refmac picks up the Zn-Cys link in the library without any intervention, and the Zn-His and Zn-Asp bonds have to be taken care of in the refmac-generated .cif file. All the links show up in the LINKR records. There may be a more elegant way to do this but it works.

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On 11/9/2012 1:09 PM, SD Y wrote:
Dear All,

Thanks for all the suggestions on low resolution, SG and Zn and I learned a lot. I am not done yet.

I am trying model co-ordinated ZN+2. I got lot of help from Prof. Roger Rowlett. Also an excellent protocol is available at http://capsicum.colgate.edu/chwiki/tiki-index.php?page=Model+Refinement. Protocol seems to be very straight forward. I am not getting the result I wanted.

1. When ever I generate cif file, its not writing any for ZN-SG links at all.

2. After refmac refinement it only draw in LINK for His-ZN. Please see the images
https://www.dropbox.com/s/7sl01pcdmxxcu2z/ZN-cpoordination-1.png
https://www.dropbox.com/s/cxlp2m2stbple02/ZN-cpoordination-2.png

3. I get this His-Zn link without using .cif file, so what stage do I use this .cif file?

4. Though cysteines were placed around 2.2 - 2.5 A from ZN, its not writing LINK in PDB. I only see LINKR ZN ZN H 1 SG CYS A 83 ZN-CYS

I dont know what is missing, I also attached the log file which generated the ZN-His coordination.

Any help is highly appreciated.

Thanks
SDY

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Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 14:36:59 +0200
From: mbfro...@post.tau.ac.il
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] low-resolution and zinc
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK

The experiment should be very problematic if I can't determine point group on the base of the symmetry merging statistics.
Watch CHI2 :-)
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On Nov 8, 2012, at 14:29 , herman.schreu...@sanofi.com <mailto:herman.schreu...@sanofi.com> wrote:

    Then we agree. I got confused because you mentioned"space group"
    and not "point group" in your phrase about PHASER and MOLREP and
    was afraid others might have gotten confused as well. Also, in
    case of twinning or almost crystallographic non-crystallographic
    symmetry, determining the point group on the basis of processing
    statistics alone can be inconclusive or even misleading. If I
    recall correctly, there has recently been a thread about this in
    the bulletin board.
    Herman





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