>     Why use a big expensive amino acid instead of choosing one of the glycine 
codons?
>
> I can't quickly track anything down in the literature to back this up, but 
"expensive" could be part of it. The cell
> doesn't want to start translation if there isn't ample resources to finish 
the job. Perhaps Met concentration is a proxy
> for anabolic potential of the cell? Or at least was primordially and "QWERTY'd 
in"?

That makes sense.
Also, It occurred to me after posting that the Met is not necessarily wasted
if it gets cleaved off by N-peptidase. It can get loaded onto another tRNA and
go through the cycle again. presumably the cost in ATP for loading Met-tRNA
and gly-tRNA is the same.
Maybe Met makes a better "handle" for some step in initiation.


Shane Caldwell wrote:
    why doesn't initiation occur also at methionines in the middle of proteins?


It can and does. I can show you expression gels where I make full-length 
protein and a fragment from an internal
initiation.

    Why use a big expensive amino acid instead of choosing one of the glycine 
codons?


I can't quickly track anything down in the literature to back this up, but 
"expensive" could be part of it. The cell
doesn't want to start translation if there isn't ample resources to finish the 
job. Perhaps Met concentration is a proxy
for anabolic potential of the cell? Or at least was primordially and "QWERTY'd 
in"?

/wild speculation

Shane Caldwell
McGill University



On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 9:46 AM, Edward A. Berry <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Opher Gileadi wrote:

        Hi Theresa,

        To add to Anat's comments: Although the AUG codon for the first 
methionine and all other methionines in a
        protein coding sequence look the same, they are read in a very 
different way by the ribosomal machinery. The
        first AUG is recognized by the initiation complex, which includes the 
separate small ribosomal subunit (40s), a
        special tRNA-methionine, and initiation factors (proteins) including 
eIF2. This leads to assembly of a complete
        ribosome and initiation of protein synthesis. Subsequently, in the 
process of elongation, AUG codons are read by
        a different tRNA, which is brought to the 80s ribosome bound to a 
protein called elongation factor 1a. This is
        an oversimplification, of course, but the point is that the initiation 
codon (=the first amino acid to be
        incorporated to the protein) is read by a special tRNA, hence the 
universal use of methionine.

        Opher

    Yes, but why methionine? Half the time it has to be removed by N-terminal 
peptidase to give a small first residue,
    or by leader sequence processing. Why use a big expensive amino acid 
instead of choosing one of the glycine codons?
    Is there an obvious reason, or just "it had to be something, and Met happened to 
get selected"?

    And why sometimes alternate start codons can be used? and why doesn't 
initiation occur also at methionines in the
    middle of proteins? I'm guessing it has to do with 5' untranslated region 
and ribosome binding sites. So could the
    start codon actually be anything you want, provided there is a strong 
ribosome binding site there?

    Just being philosophical, and not afraid to display my ignorance,
    eab


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