Hi Eleanor,

The data is perfectly twinned, with the original auto processing assigning a 
point group of P312,  but I reprocessed it in P3 and it seems to be behaving 
okay.
Are there any additional precautions I should take at the phasing stage with 
twinned data?

BW

Rhys
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From: CCP4 bulletin board [[email protected]] On Behalf Of Eleanor Dodson 
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Sent: 16 December 2014 15:13
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] P31 or P32

Sorry - of course it can.. Sorry.
 Only if the twinning is perfect then you apparently get a higher symmetry..
Eleanor

On 16 December 2014 at 14:26, Tim Gruene 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Dear Rhys,

I would try to place idealised secondary structure elements with coot
into the density - at this resolution they probably fit both hands, but
you may see a difference when you do e.g. rigid body refinement.

Best,
Tim

On 12/16/2014 10:39 AM, RHYS GRINTER wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> This will no doubt show something of my ignorance with experimental phasing, 
> however I'm currently working on solving a 3.8A SAD dataset with Pt anomalous 
> signal. Both Shelx and Xtriage see reasonable anomalous signal to about 7A 
> and seem to get  statistics suggesting a solution when I run SAD phasing 
> using Autosol in Phenix. After density modification I get pretty nice looking 
> maps with clear solvent channels and interconnected density for protein, 
> however there is very little difference in map R-factor between the hands and 
> the maps from both the P31 and P32 solution appear comparable in structure.
> Obviously DM is struggling to break the hand ambiguity, however can some one 
> tell me if what I'm seeing represents a definite solution? And what is the 
> best way to proceed from here?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Rhys
>

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