Thank you all for the interesting comments and information about bubbles behavior and dancing droplets!
Unfortunately, for now, I won´t be able to further investigate the process (by reproducing the crystallization setup under a camera as suggested by Philippe Dumas), but I will keep this in mind. Meanwhile, I keep trying to get crystals! All the best, Beatriz -------------------------- Beatriz Guimarães Laboratory of Structural Biology and Protein Engineering Instituto Carlos Chagas - ICC / FIOCRUZ Paraná Rua Prof. Algacyr Munhoz Mader, 3775 Bloco C CIC 81350-010 Curitiba - PR, Brasil Tel.:+55(41)3316-3225/2104-3438 ________________________________ De: CCP4 bulletin board <[email protected]> em nome de DUMAS Philippe (IGBMC) <[email protected]> Enviado: quinta-feira, 28 de março de 2019 12:48 Para: [email protected] Assunto: Re: [ccp4bb] Interesting pattern on a crystallization drop Le Jeudi 28 Mars 2019 12:03 CET, jai mohan <[email protected]> a écrit: A friend of mine (Angel Piñeiro) just suggested to me the "Maragoni effect", which is likely active in the dancing droplets from Stanford and might explain the "explosion" into separate bubbles.... Indeed, one can see on Wikipedia a video illustrating how the contact of fluids with different surface tensions can have big effects... > May be, I do co-relate your crystal pic with Manu Prakash at Stanford on his > work on Dancing Droplets, briefing the surface tension and evaporation ^ the > rule of two component fluids. # Since your precipitant contain PVP a shape > controlling agent > #https://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2015/03/researchers-solve-mystery-of-the-dancing-droplets.html > > Best wishes > S.M.Jaimohan PhD > On Thursday, 28 March, 2019, 1:54:23 pm IST, Sergei Strelkov > <[email protected]> wrote: > > #yiv3861306982 #yiv3861306982 > --P{margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}#yiv3861306982 > Artem (and Beatriz), > > > > > > Me bad, could have thought about that! I think you are right. > > > > > There were initially bubbles in each drop (7 in one case, 4 in the other). > > At some point the bubbles exploded (it was an instantaneous process, not just > shrinking). > > > > > Kind regards, > > Sergei > > > > > Prof. Sergei V. Strelkov Laboratory for Biocrystallography Department of > Pharmaceutical Sciences, KU Leuven O&N2, Campus Gasthuisberg, Herestraat 49 > bus 822, 3000 Leuven, Belgium Phone: +32 16 33 08 45, mobile: +32 486 29 41 > 32 Lab pages: http://pharm.kuleuven.be/BiocrystallographyFrom: CCP4 bulletin > board <[email protected]> on behalf of Artem Evdokimov > <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 1:07 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Interesting pattern on a crystallization drop Neat! > Looks like multiple adjacent bubbles that were initially touching but > eventually shrunk down to the central cores - the connectors are protein > filaments (skin on the bubbles) left over from when bubbles had contact > points. > Artem > On Wed, Mar 27, 2019, 19:39 Marshall, Bevan (Manufacturing, Parkville) > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Looked up the condition on C6 (https://c6.csiro.au/C6.asp) and that condition > is found in both Index and JCSG screens as well as Classics II. > > > > > > Bevan Marshall > Staff Scientist | Collaborative Crystallisation Centre > Manufacturing > CSIRO > > E [email protected] +61 3 9662 7492 > 343-351 Royal Parade, Parkville, VIC 3052 > www.csiro.au|https://c3.csiro.au<http://www.csiro.au|https://c3.csiro.au> > CSIRO acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the lands that we live and work > on across Australia and pays its respect to Elders past and present. > > PLEASE NOTE > The information contained in this email may be confidential or privileged. > Any unauthorised use or disclosure is prohibited. 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