Espec. Jan & Kay,

I had better check this out - ville wrote the code I believe, and I have
never actually checked the distribution!
Cheers Eleanor

On Tue, 31 Aug 2021 at 08:01, Jan Dohnalek <dohnalek...@gmail.com> wrote:

> This is good to know indeed.
> Will improve my teaching now, I also did not know this is now done
> automatically. Thanks for pointing it out.
>
> Jan
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 30, 2021 at 9:44 PM Kay Diederichs <
> kay.diederi...@uni-konstanz.de> wrote:
>
>> Dear Eleanor,
>>
>> Thanks for pointing out that CCP4 FreeRflag selects the test set in the
>> highest possible symmetry for the crystal class! I didn't know that.
>>
>> The following sentences (which are somewhat difficult to understand for
>> me) in https://www.ccp4.ac.uk/html/freerflag.html appear to document
>> that:
>> "The FreeR_flag is randomly and uniformly distributed
>> reflexion-by-reflexion, but, additionally, if the keyword NOSYM is not set,
>> all reflections that are equivalent by the symmetry of the point group of
>> the twin lattice (assuming the data is twinned), obtain the same flag. This
>> includes both the possibility of merohedral and pseudomerohedral twinning.
>> In the latter case, the obliquity parameter can be set using the keyword
>> OBL."
>>
>> I wonder since which CCP4 version (or date) this is the default behaviour.
>>
>> best wishes,
>> Kay
>>
>> On Mon, 30 Aug 2021 18:28:23 +0100, Eleanor Dodson <
>> eleanor.dod...@york.ac.uk> wrote:
>>
>> >Back to FreeR factors - Phenix, and I believe FreeRflag now select FreeRs
>> >in the highest possible symmetry for the crystal class - eh P6/mmm for a
>> >trigonal crystal, and expand the set to fill the actual space group. This
>> >means the Free R assignment is suitable if later the crystal symmetry is
>> >reassigned. But this was not always done in the past so if you are trying
>> >to reuse free/work assignments from an old project there are
>> possibilities
>> >of not getting this. Maybe the best solution is to just generate a new
>> Free
>> >R set ?
>> >Eleanor
>> >
>> ...
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