> My complaint (and I guess many more from other users will follow) is, > that if you reply to a message on the list, the author of that > message gets a private mail, too, as he is listed in the > Reply-To:-field.
Only if you don't bother editing it down to whichever address you want to reply to (as I did for this message). If your user agent doesn't let you do that, well, your choice of a crippled user agent (and an inability to edit the list of recipients is a pretty serious failing for a user agent) is not reason to mangle the list even further for everyone else. > This is *wrong* and must be corrected (i.e. removed)! I disagree. For one thing, that is one of only two places the actual sender's address appears anywhere in the headers, based on the mail I'm replying to (and the other one is in a Received: comment, even less available to user agents and not present unless the sending mailsystem happens to add it). Mind you, I'd prefer the former state. But I'm not about to criticize Jay's handling of the lists when I'm in only peripheral touch with the relevant issues; even the issue of the bounces I have only the smallest experience with. I haven't personally seen a subscription suspension since I made my mailer accept-and-drop list mail it would normally reject, which makes me think that the suspensions people are seeing are probably due to the receiving mailserver rejecting the mail and should be dealt with by the subscriber in question talking with the mailserver admin in question and getting that sorted out. > No, the Envelope-From: [...] The envelope-from is not a header and in general does not have a name with a colon after it. (Your user agent, or possibly your mail store, may be (mis)presenting it that way, but that's not how it's carried on the wire and it is not handled that way in general.) > And yes, the change in the address fields don't cure the bounce > problem because the envelope from field is unchanged (and *that* > field is used for bounces, not the header fields *within* the mail). As I understand it, the attempt to "fix" the suspended-subscription "problem" has nothing to do with where the bounces are going, but rather with their being produced in the first place. As far as I have seen described on the list, nobody knows why the bounces are being generated; there have been plausible guesses involving misguided anti-spam measures, but even those I haven't seen any confirmation of as the cause of any of the suspensions. It's certainly possible I've missed something, but the continuation of the discussion as before seems to imply that's not it. /~\ The ASCII Mouse \ / Ribbon Campaign X Against HTML [email protected] / \ Email! 7D C8 61 52 5D E7 2D 39 4E F1 31 3E E8 B3 27 4B
