I echo the reliability requirement. Classified ad sales was the biggest revenue 
generator back then so Newpapers would throw a lot of development money at them 
to make them reliable. A classified sales rep would be on the phone to a 
customer, taking the text of the ad and typing it directly into the system so 
you couldn't afford the system to suddenly crash. 

This happened to us. when the CSE system was replaced with one from Ctext using 
pc's and OS/2 starting about 1097. After a while, the sales reps started 
jotting down of the text on notepads because they knew the system might fail at 
any time. 

Anyway you did have a very fun and cool job.

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> On Mar 13, 2019, at 11:49, Paul Koning <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Early 1979.  I worked on TMS-11 from summer 1978 to summer 1980, as 
> "firefighter" -- traveling on-site support and software repair.  I was 
> scheduled for CMS-11 training early 1979, but instead the Valley News 
> developed a serious bug so I was sent there to learn on the spot.   :-)
> 
> Supposedly the Valley News was one of the biggest classified systems in the 
> country, 50+ pages of ads on the peak day.  DEC also had a system in 
> Melbourne, Australia (I think) at News Corp, which was somewhat bigger still. 
>  Or perhaps that was a bid that didn't turn into a sale?  Not sure.  Still, 
> those systems didn't have 300 terminals, the likely limit was 100 or so I 
> think.  So if you had 330 I can see why that would be custom.  TMS-11 used 
> 11/70 systems running IAS (trimmed down to look like RSX-11/D, the 
> timesharing part yanked out), with either VT61/t and/or VT71 terminals.  The 
> latter have an LSI-11 inside to do full file local editing.
> 
> There was Typeset-10, I'm not sure how many customers that had but they were 
> big.  Chicago Tribune, I think?
> 
> It was interesting to do field work for customers who need their system to be 
> very reliable because they have to produce "product" every single day.  
> Pretty amazing to get a job like that fresh out of college.
> 
>    paul
> 
> 
>> On Mar 13, 2019, at 2:37 PM, Wayne S <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Paul, what was the timeframe when you worked on the system in Van Nuys? 
>> 
>> I worked for a large newspaper  starting in 1978 and they made their own 330 
>> seat Classified Sales Entry system because there wasn't anything out there 
>> that was big enough.
>> It used Zentec ZMS-90 programmable terminals feeding Series /1 mini's that 
>> then fed IBM 3032 mainframe.
>> 
>> I was wondering if DEC had that system available during that time.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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