And even HP is a farce of a company now - a sad sad shell compared to what
they were.

Who actually owns the software?  Have we considered going to them and
asking?  It worked for CP/M - which is now unencumbered.

Kindest regards,

Doug Jackson

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On Sat, 29 Nov 2025 at 05:18, Paul Koning via cctalk <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
>
> > On Nov 28, 2025, at 2:32 AM, Rod Smallwood via cctalk <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 28/11/2025 04:10, Chris Hanson via cctalk wrote:
> >> On Nov 27, 2025, at 9:45 AM, Peter Ekstrom via cctalk<
> [email protected]> wrote:
> >>> Ok, so there basically isn't a truly legit and ethical way to run it
> as a
> >>> hobbyist.
> >> There is not a legal way to run it unless you acquired a perpetual
> license to run it on that system before DEC/Compaq/HP stopped selling such
> licenses.
> >>
> >> Whether it is *moral* or *ethical* to run it is independent of whether
> it is *legal* to run it, and a poor analogy such as one likening running it
> to stealing a car will not help much in making up your own mind about such
> things.
> >>
> >>   — Chris
> >
> >> I worked for DEC for 10 years. They were the best company I ever worked
> for or with
> >> They were altruistic, kind and generous.  They loaned out hardware and
> software all the time.
> >
> >     I am English and to an extent therefore somewhat can claim to have
> an indpendant view.
> >
> >     Here I will make a non-detrimental comment.
> >
> >    The US is dollar driven and uses its laws for business advantage when
> it can.
> >
> >     The most famous British judge Lord Denning always said.
> >
> >     "This is not a court of law but a place of justice, fairness and
> truth"
> >
> >      DEC has (sadly) been gone for 25 years.
>
> Technically that is not accurate.  While DEC is no longer a standalone
> company, its property still has an owner, but nowadays that's either VSI,
> HP, or XX2247 depending on which parts you're talking about.
>
>         paul
>
>

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