>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Aug 18 21:22:27 2001

>Joerg makes the presumption that when automated lists do not
>work as planned,  his appoach is to insult and frail the user
>and he does not consider that automated lists fail for
>many reasons.

... the more you write, the more you show us that you are missing
basic social knowledge that is expected from people who subscribe
to mailing lists.


>Due to spammers mining lists for email address, many of
>these features were stopped.  The normal result is that
>when the user gets a 'not found here' messages, they simply
>send a note to the listmanager and the listmanager fixes it.

The question is: As you now show us that you know how you could
                get rid of the unwanted subscription, why then
                did you repeatedly send spam mail to an
                unenvolved person like me?


>The larger lesson to be learned, in my opinion, is that no
>matter how great of a programmer you are or how fluent
>you ability to decode bits-and-bytes, the world is full of
>human processes.   There is no usefulness, even you are
>a technical expert, to call people degrading names and
>to resort to personal attacks with the system is not working.

I hope you don't want me to answer to this paragraph with 
all recipients included ...

>not do face-to-face.   It is quite childish to set securely in
>a seat in front of a screen/keyboard and bomb them with
>notes calling them names.   This is much more serious,
>Joerg Shilling, than the difficulties of not being able to
>get past a broken automated process.

You are right, your behavior really has been childish.

If you would at least have the knowledge of a novice, then you would
have easily found that I have no relation to the list server.

Why did't you send mail to the listmaster of the listserver
instead of sending your repeated spam mail to me?

I still hope that your postmaster will give you a lesson on correct
usage of the mail system...

J�rg

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