> >"Realize" as "bring into concrete existence" or "realize" as "conceive > >vividly as real"? If first, then the answer is "I don't, the unit just > >does it." If second, then you can just turn the disk and measure the > >diameter and note that when the inner ring of virgin surface gets thin > >enough media gets rendered useless. If neither answers the question, > >define "this." > > Does this mean that you cannot "see" it vie SCSI only?
Well, if those secret Ricoh pages don't tell, then no, you can't "see" that via SCSI. If the pages do tell, then I wouldn't know. The moment I "see" the side effect of it via SCSI (as already mentioned you start getting positioning errors in the beginning of the media) it's already too late. > Is there any other documentation available? > > 5 secret pages from Ricoh Where can I get these pages? I was in contact with Ricoh but got basically nowhere. > >> your tools are not a complete implementaion > > >Can you tell what's missing then? > > Support for recognition of media that is a result of an aborted format process. This is correct that my utility sees only difference between blank and formatted media (fully *or* partially), but not between fully and partially formatted media. I was aware that you can check if the media was partially formatted with READ DISK INFORMATION. But I didn't implement that [in final version] because the question "*then* what?" arose. Then you have two options: to resume the format or initialize new one. But what's the point of resuming the format if the unit does it *transparently* for you anyway, basically *liberating* you from having to wait till full format is complete? Who would want to wait for over 20 mins till full format is complete when the partial format is due in *less* than a minute (at least with later firmware) and the media is *perfectly* usable as if it was completely formatted? So I reckoned that the only meaningfull option is to initiate new format. And so the utility either formats the blank media without asking no questions or insist on -f flag if mounted media is already formatted (fully *or* partially). A. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

