> The dvd+r format and grow tools are a hack and work because people know

"[programs] work because people know"??? I used to believe that people
use programs because they work. I haven't seen anything work just
because I believed it does:-)

> that they are for DVD+RW only.

The idea behind growisofs is generic (what do you do when the target
media has no session or track notion, yet don't want to remaster the
whole thing?) and the program can be used with arbitrary random r/w
access device, in particular with DVD-RAM (a hint for "L. Cranswick"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, see http://fy.chalmers.se/~appro/linux/DVD+RW/tools/:-).

> I did not yet test compatibility, but i heard that no Toshiba drive
> will read these disks because they are not approved by the DVD-Forum.

Strange logic again. It sounds like if DVD Forum adopts DVD+RW tomorrow,
Toshiba drives would just start reading these disks? It's rather that
Toshiba refuses to lift a finger to figure out what's the problem using
the fact that DVD+RW is not adopted by DVD+RW forum as an excuse, and a
*lame* one. I have received a number of reports about Toshiba notebook
drives contradicting each other. Some people have no problems whatsoever
mounting DVD+RW media in their Toshiba notebook drives (found in HP,
IBM, Dell, Compaq, Sony, Fujitsu, etc. notebooks), some (including me)
have partial success (sometimes it gets mounted and then provides
perfect playback), but most have indeed no luck at all. And doesn't
appear to be a matter of good or bad Toshiba firmware... As mentioned on
my page it makes me believe that if DVD+RW drives were better calibrated
and were writing lead-in with less radial variation (so that "impatient"
tracking systems wouldn't time out too soon), the [in]compatibility
wouldn't be [such big] issue.

A.


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