> On Nov 21, 2025, at 9:55 AM, Marc <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> Package based Ceph deployments, while popular, are not a good choice
>>> in general. The very simple reason is that it makes upgrades more
>>> dangerous: you can unintentionally upgrade services in the wrong order
>>> due to failovers.
>> 
>> Or when a node crashes / reboots during an upgrade.  This has happened
>> to me.
>> 
>> 
> 
> Hmmm, that is not really nice to read that ceph is so picky that everything 
> can go wrong with just a minor update on a single node.

Then if you really want to stick with package installs, deploy every service on 
a separate node. Your DC runneth over.

> I am not sure if that is a good direction for development.

Hence the increasing motivations for container installations, which are by 
nature immune from this dynamic.

> I would expect ceph to be more robust. 

It's not a function of Ceph, but robustness is exactly the goal.
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