Jon,
Perhaps I was not clear in my explanation.
My competitors did not write a java program that does the same thing my
application does. They are using a 3rd party java program to extend their
legacy system (in one case an AS/400 and the other VB) to the Internet.
What they have done is take an application written for a local network and
run it through a java program so it can run on the Internet. Like a
Citrix/WinFrame approach and a little like running pcAnywhere.
Sorry if I was not clear. Perhaps you would like to take another stab at
answering my question.
Thanks,
Chris
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jon Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 1:23 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Extending legacy systems through Java
>
>
> This is real simple. Coldfusion's strength is not it's power,
> even though it
> powerful, but it's speed and ease of development.
> A good java programmer can whip out a networked java app in the
> same time we
> can whip together the same app in CF, but good java programmers get paid a
> lot more too.
> That should enable you to undercut their prices by quite a bit. Especially
> when comparing to a custom java application.
>
> Quite simply, the _potential_ power of a custom java application is far
> greater than anything CF can deliver.
> Your competitors are not cheating, they are leveraging more powerful
> technoligies. Time to learn to us a bigger gun if you hope to win on the
> same battlefield.
>
> I am really surprised about the lack of buzz for Neo among CF developers,
> which will help level the battlefield somewhat and IIRC it is slated for
> release later this year.
>
> jon
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Christopher P. Maher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 10:52 PM
> Subject: Extending legacy systems through Java
>
>
> > As CF developers we often run into competing technologies and find
> ourselves
> > in need of reasons why a CF system is at least as good if not better.
> There
> > have been lots of threads here and on CF-Talk comparing CF to other web
> > development technologies. Rather than ASP or PHP, I have concerns about
> > other technologies.
> >
> > I have recently run into companies that are putting legacy
> applications on
> > the web through Java clients. This is a real competitive
> concern for me as
> > most companies in my target market (insurance) already have back end
> > systems. If they can easily put these applications on the Internet for
> their
> > agents, then it makes what I do (a "real" HTML output system built with
> CF)
> > potentially irrelevant.
> >
> > The two particular products I know about are:
> >
> > Tarantella http://www.tarantella.com
> > J Walk Java Client by SEAGULL http://www.seagullsw.com/
> >
> > The SUN website has an article about extending legacy systems in this
> manner
> > which is - obviously - rather positive.
> > http://java.sun.com/features/1999/08/unshackled1.html
> >
> > Apart from feeling like my competitors are "cheating" by using such
> > approaches, I would love to have a better understanding of these
> approaches
> > and some ammunition for why they are not as good of a solution as a CF
> > system.
> >
> > The particular context for these systems is use by the company's agents.
> So
> > the fact that the general public will never download the
> necessary plugin
> > isn't a good argument.
> >
> > Thanks for any input.
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> > Christopher P. Maher
> > Maher Associates, Inc.
> > Actuarial and Computer Consulting
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > http://www.maherassociates.com
> >
> >
> >
>
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