"Why should I as a tax-payer pay to keep someone in jail for their
lifetime."
It's actually cheaper to do so than to pay death-row appeals which we have
concede are necessary. In a perfect world the justice system would put
guilty people on death-row but that isn't always the case as evidenced by
all the pardons been given by new DNA evidence in recent years. Such a big
problem in one state that it had to issue a moratorium in death sentences
until it can do a review of it's judicial system.
Kevin, don't people that get life sentences appeal too? What hard data backs
up this statement? I thought the govt refused to release court costs on
criminal cases?
-george
>From: Kevin Gilchrist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: RE: Revenge has it's place
>Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 11:14:22 -0400
>
>What are people's thoughts on the idea that a person rotting in jail for
>the
>rest of their lives is punishment enough for any crime? It's interesting
>that in Ireland we just voted out the any provision for capital punishment
>out of the constitution (we also just rejected the European Nice treaty and
>shocked a lot of people, an interesting mix of left and right
>(anti-federalism)).
>
>I don't want to start a flame war so I'll try and provide some
>counterpoints
>and rebuttals.
>
>"But we need to make sure that person is never in a position to commit
>murder/atrocities again"
>Surely this is met by keeping someone in a cell for the rest of their life
>without parole.
>
>"Modern jails are too easy on murderers. They can watch TV and read
>books."
>Isn't that torture and a cruel irony in itself?
>Watching TV, to me, would just remind me of everything I can't be a part of
>anymore.
>And as for reading books, that provides an opportunity for the greatest
>punishment of all, that a person reach a point where they actually do
>realize remorse but yet still have to live with the result of their
>actions.
>And even if a prisoner went to their grave unrepentant, do we the public,
>not have the last laugh so to speak, that somebody could be so misguided
>and
>stupid?
>
>"The bible says an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth"
>I'm no scholar and I think the quote is from the Old Testament but is it
>not
>superceded (such a geek versionistic approach) by the New Testament to
>practice forgiveness "and turn the other cheek."
>
>"People like that need to be removed from the gene-pool."
>Satisfied by life imprisonment with life parole I would think.
>
>"Why should I as a tax-payer pay to keep someone in jail for their
>lifetime."
>It's actually cheaper to do so than to pay death-row appeals which we have
>concede are necessary. In a perfect world the justice system would put
>guilty people on death-row but that isn't always the case as evidenced by
>all the pardons been given by new DNA evidence in recent years. Such a big
>problem in one state that it had to issue a moratorium in death sentences
>until it can do a review of it's judicial system.
>
>I'm genuinely interested in just exploring the issue and keen to see if
>there may be other arguments to continue capital punishment other than a
>value judgment, i.e. "what you've said makes sense but sorry, that person
>has to die and that's just the way I feel about" which is fine.
>
>(sorry about that, got me thinking...
>rant over.)
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Edward Chanter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 10:41 AM
>To: CF-Community
>Subject: RE: Revenge has it's place
>
>
>Isn't that what the Klu Klux Klan used to do to people?
>
> > --- Original Message ---
> > "I think they should have drug the SOB behind a pickup to
> > Oklahoma City and
> > hung him in the square"
>
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