Ray,
elegant response... and I agree in part.
sales tax hardly however balances the amount I pay in opposite to
federal withholdings... and of course there is a tangible benefit to
sales tax (ie: you get control of how the money is spent and a product
or service)...
of course if people in our fair country were less consumer oriented and
bought more staple food, less eating out... more at home childcare and
less daycare... and generally more more cognizant of the interaction
their consumerism has with society, the environment, etc. (SUV lovers)
their tax liability would be lessened..
As for corporate welfare, someone said it correctly... companies spend
more money avoiding federal taxes than they pay.
ANd there exists this other class... the people requiring a maximum
income. the folks along with the equity based wage slaves seem to
always structure things to eliminate their liability.. if we taxed on
the consumption side the tax would be there... of course people would
spend less at the register becuase they would be directly aware of the
large the implication... now the way it is people get dinked here and
there and they are relegated to saying it is ok...
and less spending would be bad for big business and the power brokers..
it is all about structuring...
although socialist concepts seem ideal, people should produce more...
families should pay more (they use more) and generally people should be
more kind and reestablishment community... Not these overpriced suburbs
where they hire 10k police and put padding on everything related to
kids...
give people their rights back and the right to use the rights... I
don't think I would have a problem with Tim McVeigh or Ted Bundy living
next door if everyone had their rights... I am sure my 9mm pistol in
some whackos head would cease the problems, save the taxpayer and offer
a more instant remedy.. of course my firearm should be registered if
concealable... missiles, machine guns, etc. shouldn't... (rant)..
Does anybody recognize how badly the middle class and the single person
gets screwed for trying and exactly how much they don't use
comparatively??? ANd what about those same sex benefits and the other
forms of church/family based discrimination?
love you guys... just offering some mind expansion... good threads so
far..
-paris
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-----Original Message-----
From: "Raymond Camden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 10:15:28 -0400
Subject: RE: Revenge has it's place
> > Ray good observations, and BTW: my comments are more inciting than
> per
> > se the hard reality.. I am hardly as extreme about these things as
> it
> > seems... offering a filtered pure view of the inequity.. thats
> all...
>
> Nope, too late, I'm convinced you are pure evil and must be stopped.
> ;)
>
> > I did attend public schools... which I still insist did squat in
> > providing education and leadership.. then again...
>
> Public schools aren't perfect. Just ask any teacher. We should all
> try to
> make them better, as much as we can, but certainly you would agree
> that
> cutting off a majority of their funding would _not_ help.
>
> > My point is we create too many legal loopholes and call certain
> things
> > alright to be discriminatory about. As I think I said children are
> > cool... but people need to think with their brains and not their
> > anatomy.
>
> Well, again, you are being broad. There are _numerous_ problems in
> this
> country, and numerous things done right. Let's try to stay focused on
> one
> particular problem at a time. As for thinking with your brains.
> Children
> aren't always planned. It's been that way since day one. Yes, we have
> birth
> control (thank god I caught it - I typoed that as 'bitch control' ;),
> but
> it's not perfect. Yes, we have abortions, but not everyone believes
> abortions are right. (I don't, but PLEASE let's not open that can of
> worms.)
> Heck, I even know people who get 'fixed' and still have kids.
>
> > It is funny how socialist this country keep continuing to become in
> > selective manners. Seems like everyone wants me the single person
> to
>
> And this is wrong how? Don't most European 'democracries' also have a
> strong
> socialist view? Don't most of them have subsidized health care? I'm
> not
> saying this is good or bad, but show me a 'pure' goverment outside of
> dictatorships and I'll be surprised. We are certainly not a pure
> capitalist
> democracy. I consider myself conservative. I feel that that are cases
> now
> where the gov't _does_ go too far. This applies to companies as well.
> Let's
> not forget about corporate welfare as well. But, on the flip side, I
> don't
> think we should totally cut off all government help. You can find a
> happy
> middle ground.
>
> > pay for their life while they suck up the money the government
> unfairly
> > takes more of... Believe me, the family of 5 consumes way more than
> I
> > do... even though they simply are paying for it proportionally.
>
> And they also pay more taxes - sales taxes. I'd be willing to bet the
> breaks
> they get in their federal income tax is almost completely nullified
> by what
> they pay in sales taxes.
>
> Ray Camden
>
>
>
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