----- Original Message -----
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2001 9:40 PM
Subject: RE: Kyoto and global warming (was: RE: Hiyas! :))
>
> Well, exactly ... and the point I'm trying to make is, don't believe
> everything a environmental group tells you just because the seem so
> concerned. They have ulterior motives, too, whether they realize it or
not.
>
> They need money to operate and the only way they can get money is to make
> themselves seem useful and neccessary. And the only way to do that is to
> tell only their side of the story.
Believe me, there is nothing that environmental groups would rather do than
close themselves down, but as long as they are needed they will continue to
do what they need to - including attempting to drag certain mentalities out
of the nineteenth century.
> This is answer to those saying "don't believe what the politicians and the
> newspapers tell you."
>
> I'm saying, "don't believe anything anybody tells you ... " or at least
take
> it all with a grain of salt. Or at least, listen to both sides and throw
> out what doesn't make sense to you.
Absolutely, could not agree with you more on that - a closed mind is a very
dangerous thing, especially when it affects other people or the planet as a
whole.
> For those who have actually paid attention to what I've said, I have said
> nasty things about the non-environmental side of the issue, too. But I've
> been disappointed that so many seemingly intelligent people on this list
buy
> hook line and sinker everything the environmental groups tell them.
>
> H.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim McAtee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2001 1:14 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Kyoto and global warming (was: RE: Hiyas! :))
>
>
> It takes money to run any organization, especially ones that, by
> necessity, are forced to work through political lobbying. There are a
> _lot_ of scam non-profits in existence, but the larger environmental and
> consumer concerns don't tend to be among them. But keep your money in
> your wallet where you feel it's safest.
>
> One thing I've learned from years of watching (and occasionally
> participating in) the arguments from either side is that people believe
> what they want to believe. Seldom are they swayed by either logical
> argument or scientific fact. Whether it's political, economic,
> environmental, social issues, doesn't matter. Most disturbing are the
> folks that are incapable of thinking for themselves. They wake up in
> the morning and brand themselves "liberal" or "conservative" and then
> they argue the party line, by rote, to their death. Like damned
> lemmings.
>
> Jim
>
>
>
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