> Sam,
>
> Listen to yourself. You talk about flame bait but
> object to being
> called a troll. You think it would be really cool if
> France and
> Germany attacked each other? We've already done this
> one.
I didn�t say that would be cool, it�s a doomsday
scenario, nothing cool about that.
It would be a civil war within the European Union. It
was a joke.
>It wasn't a
> civil war because they are different countries.
> Where's your source on
> Canada? 85% of Canadians hate the US? Didn't I just
> answer that?
The Journalist on The Factor was Rondi Adamson. She
mentioned the 85% poll but I can�t find a transcript
or the poll.
Here�s the kids think we�re evil one:
http://www.torontofreepress.com/2004/weinreb063004.htm
> I dunno if liberals object to being called liberals.
> Don't think so.
> Personally, I think it's a matter of definition.
> Conservatives are
> people who don't rush into wars, who don't risk the
> lives of soldiers
> on dubious claims they later fail to substantiate. A
> true conservative
> values what is good in the status quo, like let's
> say the hard-won
> respect of allies.
>
> Making fun of Rush's drug problem is almost
> irresistible given the
> lack of compassion he had previously shown for
> people with the same
> problem he had at the time he made the statements. I
> really don't see
> that addiction to oxycotin is much different than an
> addiction to
> heroin. They are both equally predictable to the
> average intelligent
> human being and both require denial. Denial is not a
> quality I admire
> in anyone let alone a political commentator.
>
I can't agree. People choose to do heroin or other
hard drugs and then get addicted.
Rush was taking painkillers for his back pain for
years and became addicted.
I'm not approving of it, just stating they are to
different kinds of people.
> I am going to challenge you to make your points
> without quoting Rush
> Limbaugh. Quote George WIll if you want, William F.
> Buckley Jr,
> William Safire; I'll read what any of these guys has
> to say. Probably
> some others too that I am overlooking too. I mean...
> if Rush is that
> right about a given point, you ought to be able to
> find a citation
> that backs up the point in some respectable
> medium...I don't send you
> links from the wobblies and expect you to believe
> them because they
> aren't going to convince you regardless.
Yes you do. A lot of your links are from liberal
publications. The one you sent yesterday, and I will
respond to it, small liberal publication I never heard
of.
The beginning of the F9/11 discussion someone posted
an op-ed article from some unknown writer that stated
everything Moore said was true but didn't offer
anything to confirm it, just his word.
>That is what you are trying
> to do, right? Change some minds?
Not really, just want people to here both sides and
decide for themselves.
-sm
>
> Meanwhile I have this to say to you about Vietnam.
> "The light is at
> the end of the tunnel."
>
> Dana
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Sam Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 21:52:58 -0700 (PDT)
> Subject: Re: 9/11 Commission to Cheney - You're
> still wrong.
> To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> --- dana tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Modern day Vietnam? That's what Ted Kennedy was
> > using
> > > to turn Americans against the war. Nobody except
> > you
> > > and the terrorist bought it.
> >
> > uh, there are quite a few people who see this
> > parallel. As I recall
> > WIlliam Buckley Jr is one. You've heard of WIlliam
> F
> > Buckley Jr right?
>
> OK, I'll give you that on a technicality. The
> article
> he's referring to states that we can't win this kind
> of war from the air alone. We still have to go on
> the
> ground where we're no more advanced then we were
> during the Vietnam War. Ted Kennedy said this is
> George Bush's Vietnam and Doug said, "we are stuck
> in
> a modern day Vietnam" So I'll give it to you.
>
> >
> > > Did you miss the memo about the handover of
> power
> > to
> > > Iraq?
> >
> > We are still there right?
>
> The point is a lot of you thought the handover was
> going to drag on but everything's still on schedule.
> The Iraqi's are starting to take over and are exit
> is
> in the works. May take awhile but its no 10-year
> war.
>
> > > >wherein the US reputation, is being sullied,
> > > By a handful of Democratic politicians here that
> > want
> > > to win the election and a few rogue countries
> that
> > > lost their gravy train.
> >
> > Sam. Consider the possibility that the US
> reputation
> > is being affected
> > by the actions of its leaders. Does this not make
> > more sense than to
> > think that other countries suddenly became
> > anti-American?
> I keep asking what countries all the sudden hate us
> and the answer I get is all.
> So I need to answer myself.
>
> France, Germany, Canada and Ireland. Turkey and
> Saudi
> Arabia I think are on the border.
>
> I was under the impression that France always hated
> everybody. A lot of conservatives think if Chirac
> were
> out the French would get along with us better but I
> doubt it.
> France and Russia profited the most from the alleged
> scandal.
>
> Germany I think is the one Country that would hate
> us
> because of the War. But I think that has to do with
> the world power thing, they don't like us calling
> the
> shots anymore. But I was wrong about them being in
> on
> the oil for food scanal. Sorry.
>
> <thatDreamIHad>
> I'm thinking France and Germany want Kerry elected.
> He
> will fly over Iraq and swear he had personally seen
> atrocities committed by American troops. Throw the
> entire US military in jail and make EU (read Germany
> and France) the new world power. Of course they hate
> each other so civil war will break out and...to be
> continued
> </thatDreamIHad>
>
> Canada. I heard from a Canadian journalist on the
> "Only O'Reilly Can Spin Zone" that they've felt so
> secure from being our neighbor all these years that
> they've become pacifists and believe if everyone
> puts
> down their guns it would be a happy world.
> Don't know it to be true but I did read 85% of
> Canadians don't like us and 40% of children think
> we're an evil empire. Don't know how nuch should be
> attributed to the war.
>
> Ireland hates Bush and loves Clinton. I think it has
> nothing to do with the war and I'll leave it at
> that.
>
> I did come across this article from 2 years ago and
> looks like it still applies today.
>
> Axis of Allies
>
http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=105001714
>
> > > Ironic that the only ones against us are
> involved
> > with
> > > the food-for-oil scandal. Talk about a money
> > train. We
> > > broke up that multi-billion dollar bribery ring.
> >
> > So other countries either support the US
> > unconditionally or they are
> > just corrupt, is that what you are saying?
> >
> Not at all.
>
> > ::sigh:: have you been listening to Rush Limbaugh
> > again?
>
> Yes. He wants to know why conservatives are proud to
> be labeled conservative but people on the left hate
> being called liberals. What gives?
>
> Since you brought him up, everyone here makes fun of
> him and calls him a junkie but I haven't heard
> anyone
> prove him wrong once. Just a little flame bait.
>
> -sm
>
>
>
>
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