> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 1:52 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: New News from Germany.
>
>
> Below ...
>
> Graph 1: ??
>
> Graph 2: ?? You obviously do not grasp the details of Watergate.
Let me guess, you do?
>
> Graph 3: Who cares? A bunch of conspiracy junk.
I care. That is why the media sucks, because people like you get to pick
what "we" care about.
>
> Graph 4: ??
>
> Graph 5: And what's the point? There's enough media companies to ensure
> diversity and competition, which happens every day.
BS - The branches are so entangled. Competition. Please. Competing for what?
Advertising? Celebrity attention? Let me tell you, if you are a reporter and
you piss off the administration, any administration, you won't be asking any
questions. That is the way it is.
>
> Graph 6: This is really ludicrous and makes no sense.
Paris, man, you are ludicrous. Let's see, I need to get my dictionary out
and look that up.
>
> Graph 7: Ditto.
>
>
> H.
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paris Lundis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 10:44 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: New News from Germany.
>
>
> Indeed, no grand conspiracy... well at least not at these levels of
> examples...
>
> Watergate had so many circles running for so many reasons it is
> impossible to dicipher what even happened... as if taping some folks
> was that big of a deal that made impeachment necessary...
>
> not to overflow with political zest, however, the media is doing very
> little, if anything to publicize Shumer's and other politicos
> requestiong a national ID card.... Carnivore has been minimized in the
> news... Mexico's open border talks with Bush, yes absent in the US
> media too.. and heck... how about that gold...
>
> It is the same old tired walmartesque repetition...
>
> So how many major media companies are there in the united states? How
> many companies produce all the textbooks our children read? What do
> these countries own?
>
> Amazing how our publishers write things in selective fashion, with
> their joint agreement on historical perversions... lots of conspiracy
> therein...undoubtedly...
>
> there are good people with there heads screwed on, but you wont find
> them at ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX, or CNN as examples.
>
> -paris
>
> [finding the future in the past, passing the future in the present]
> [connecting people, places and things]
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 22:43:43 -0700
> Subject: RE: New News from Germany.
>
> > Wasn't it Attorney General John Mitchell who called Washington Post
> > Publisher Katherine Graham and told her she'd "find her titty in a
> > ringer"
> > if the Post published a story about his cover-up role in Watergate?
> >
> > The answer is yes, yes it was.
> >
> > There was a call that got a story quashed, wasn't it!
> >
> > Yes, for various reasons, stories have been quashed by
> > publishers/owners
> > after getting calls from powerful people -- but it happens rarely.
> > And why?
> > Because the public always finds out. A professional reporter or
> > editor
> > involved in the story will blabber and another news organization will
> > GLEEFULLY pick up the story in order to embarrass the competition or
> > shame
> > another news organization.
> >
> > Sorry to disappoint you. There's no grand conspiracy here.
> >
> >
> > H.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Paris Lundis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 10:24 PM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: RE: New News from Germany.
> >
> >
> > I can believe the media is greatly filtered and controlled by federal
> > government... I can speak personally, knowing reporters in part who
> > have worked to break edgey editorials and features that were far
> > reaching.
> >
> > Money issues aside, the powers that are make the rules. One call to
> > the
> > publisher and most things get squashed or the article gets edited by
> > the government entities first.
> >
> > Mass media is less than honest on big stories like this attack...
> > when
> > it comes to hometown crap they tend to be fairly close... afterall
> > who
> > cares about a few peons.. it keeps us all happy arguing in our tiny
> > sandboxes with each other, while the big fish swim right past us with
> > everything in hand.
> >
> > [finding the future in the past, passing the future in the present]
> > [connecting people, places and things]
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 22:25:59 -0700
> > Subject: RE: New News from Germany.
> >
> > > I should add ... about the newspapers publishing extra editions at
> > an
> > > expense that will not be recovered -- and it won't ...
> > >
> > > If these newspapers had not published extra editions, most readers
> > > never
> > > even would have noticed ... so they would not have lost readers
> > (very
> > > few
> > > newspapers today compete in a two newspaper town).
> > >
> > > Publishing a extra edition does nothing to bring in new
> > subscribers.
> > >
> > > The churn rate among subscribers may subside a bit during the
> > crisis
> > > (translating into slightly higher subscription numbers), but no
> > > newspapers
> > > will be bumped up into the next circulation category which will
> > allow
> > > them
> > > to raise their advertising rates.
> > >
> > > At a time when we are on the cusp of a recession, facing an
> > uncertain
> > > economic future, when overall advertising is already down
> > (especially
> > > in
> > > classifieds, because of the Internet), these newspapers through the
> > > accounting books out the window and did was was right from a news
> > > perspective.
> > >
> > > I can't speak for the broadcast industry because I have no direct
> > > experience
> > > there, especially on the financial side, but I imagine their
> > economic
> > > conditions are not far removed from what newspapers are facing.
> > >
> > > H.
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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