But thats not what this is about. It's about giving gays equal rights. They can be quietly gay and not bug you but they can also be married. Or have a civil union
they just want the right to pay their taxes together and the right to be able to get health insurance together etc etc.

I mean some gays can get health insurance through a few big companies but mostly they are SOL

William Wheatley
Coldfusion Guru

    Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons,
for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Monique Boea
  To: CF-Community
  Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 4:54 PM
  Subject: RE: Senate rejects move to ban same-sex marriage

  I will never accept homosexuality as something that is right.

  and I will never accept changing the def. of marriage.

  Now, do I believe that a person should be discriminated against because
  he/she is gay, of course not.

  But, you don't need a "right" to be gay.

  -----Original Message-----
  From: Bill Wheatley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 4:46 PM
  To: CF-Community
  Subject: Re: Senate rejects move to ban same-sex marriage

  Wow you of all people then should be a little more open minded since you
  have a greater chance of knowing what it feels like to be discriminated
  aganist.

  Give the gays equal rights and let them have a civil union. Or while we're
  passing the 'don't let gays marry amendment' we can repeal the rights of
  woman and blacks? I mean if we're going to start pulling equal rights away
  why not go full tilt?

  I don't think any of those ideas are good :>

  William Wheatley
  Coldfusion Guru

      Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons,
  for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Monique Boea
    To: CF-Community
    Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 4:11 PM
    Subject: RE: Senate rejects move to ban same-sex marriage

    > Just out of curiosity, why not?  There are, in my mind, distinct
    parallels.

    As I said b4, I cannot change how I look. I will be a black female till I
    die, unless I pull a Michael Jackson, which I won't :)

    I can't hide my race.

    A gay man or woman can go into a job interview, and the subject of sexual
    preference will not be discussed.

    A gay man or woman can go rent an apt and and the subject of sexual
    preference will not be discussed.

    A gay man or woman can go buy a car, get a home loan, etc. etc. etc. and
  the
    subject of sexual preference will not be discussed.

    I on the other hand where BLACK (proudly that is :)) every day, every
  where,
    in every situation.

    THAT is not the same.

    When I fill out most applications for whatver, they ask for my race, they
    don't ask my sexual pref.

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Ben Doom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
    Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 3:48 PM
    To: CF-Community
    Subject: Re: Senate rejects move to ban same-sex marriage

    Monique Boea wrote:
    > But you guys are missing my point.
    > And I am not sure of why you think this is odd when I bring it up.
    > But if a group of people can change laws (and PLEASE don't compare this
  to
    > the black human rights issue) then what is to stop other groups from

    Just out of curiosity, why not?  There are, in my mind, distinct
  parallels.

    > changing the laws to further change marriage, age limits, sex limits,
    crime,
    > etc. Like a man wanting to marry his daughter. Do we further change the
    laws
    > to accommodate him?  Or a woman who wants to sleep with a 14 year old.
    >  
    > Do you guys want a totally lawless society where everyone can do
  whatever
    > they please?

    No.  But I do want a relatively lawless society where I can do as I
    please so long as I do no harm.  However, I'm thinking that you and I
    would disagree on the salient points of "doing harm" in this instance.

    --BenD
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