Now I'm trying to figure out if this is just a joke or if you're
trying to debunk what I said...

> phallusizing?

> that sounds more like ideology rather than facts or data.

> larry

> On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 11:00:32 -0400, S. Isaac Dealey
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > Second - I think that even in most non-modern cultures
>> > few, if any, women expect childbirth to be pain-free.
>> > What they do expect is that it is a rite of passage
>> > that they are capable of enduring. And, if you're
>> > mentally prepared, it's really not that horrific
>> > (speaking as someone who went through 42 hours of
>> > labor with no epidural).
>>
>> I never meant to imply it was common, but it has been
>> known to happen
>> for women who are prepared for and expect painless birth.
>> Though I
>> gather that by and large, your description does depict
>> the norm (and I
>> see where my verbage might have seemed a bit zealous. :P
>> ) Though when
>> my ex was pregnant with our 2nd daughter, she was also
>> reading a lot
>> of birth erotica. It sounds really bizarre to most women
>> particularly
>> in our culture where hospital birth horror stories tends
>> to become the
>> women's equivalent of a phalus-sizing contest.
>> Nonetheless there are a
>> good number of women who write about having not just a
>> powerful right
>> of passage, but in some cases the most powerful orgasmic
>> experiences
>> of their lives while givin birth. Although not always
>> painlessly. Of
>> course every woman is different.

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