Actually Mike, they're talking about Dispensationalism
and the second coming of Christ. Can't happen without
the Jews being in Israel.

Because Bush is a Born Again Christian they think he's
trying to hurry this along.

He's been accused of some sick shit before but this
takes the cake.

-sm

--- Michael Dinowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Well, when you look at the religion of the mass of
> people from Europe, America,
> etc. including the Pope, all of whom are trying to
> get Israel to give up ALL of
> the land that they won in a defensive war, land that
> includes part of
> Jerusalem.....
>
> > I was not aware that Christians were trying to get
> Jews out of Israel?
> >
> > Dana
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Michael Dinowitz
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 18:24:44 -0400
> > Subject: RE: Iran defies UN...and why not?
> > To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > occupy. Love that word. The only people to hold
> Jerusalem as their capital
> > for over 3000 years come back to it and it's
> occupation. I guess anywhere
> > where someone lives is the place they occupy, so
> you are correct. If you
> > mean the ingathering of exiles to Israel, this is
> a Jewish concept and not
> > really on the radar of most Christians as a sign
> of the coming of the
> > messiah. If it was, why would many Christians be
> trying to get the Jews out
> > of Israel?
> > As for why Palestinians (and Arabs in general) are
> skeptical of Christians
> > has nothing to do with Israel. The Crusades come
> to mind as does the current
> > religio-centrism that is running through Islam.
> We're all infidels according
> > to the current teachings (wahabism).
> >
> >   _____
> >
> > From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 5:57 PM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Re: Iran defies UN...and why not?
> >
> > I think one of those events is the occupation of
> Jerusalem by Israel -
> >
> >
> > which is one of the reasons why the Religious
> Right is a strong Israel
> > supporter, and one of the reasons why Palestinians
> are skeptical of
> > Christians.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Howie Hamlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 17:16:55 -0400
> > Subject: Re: Iran defies UN...and why not?
> > To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > Some Christians believe that certain world events
> need to take place
> > before the Rapture.  I think this means that they
> actively try to make
> > those events happen.
> >
> > Howie
> >
> >    ----- Original Message -----
> >    From: Matthew Small
> >    To: CF-Community
> >    Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 4:52 PM
> >    Subject: RE: Iran defies UN...and why not?
> >
> >    "When our generals start actively campaigning
> for the Rapture"?
> >
> >    What does that mean? How do you campaign for
> the
> > Rapture?
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