But since you brought it up, Kerry did say that. And
most of the 150 vets he was quoting either weren't
vets or never went to Vietnam.
-sm
--- dana tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> That's not the quote the swift boat people are
> running. The statement went:
>
> "several months ago in Detroit, we had an
> investigation at which over
> 150 honorably discharged and many very highly
> decorated veterans
> testified to war crimes committed in Southeast Asia,
> not isolated
> incidents but crimes committed on a day-to-day basis
> with the full
> awareness of officers at all levels of command....
>
> They told the stories at times they had personally
> raped, cut off
> ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable
> telephones to human
> genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs,
> blown up bodies,
> randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in
> fashion reminiscent of
> Genghis Khan"
>
> But they quote it as
>
> "they had personally raped, cut off ears, cut off
> heads, taped wires
> from portable telephones to human genitals and
> turned up the power,
> cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at
> civilians, razed
> villages in fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan"
>
> Dana
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 16:05:15 -0700 (PDT), Sam Morris
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > John Kerry at the Senate Foreign Relations
> Committee
> > in 1971.
> >
> > "We rationalized destroying villages in order to
> save
> > them. We saw America lose her sense of morality as
> she
> > accepted very coolly at My Lai and refused to give
> up
> > the image of American soldiers who hand out
> chocolate
> > bars and chewing gum."
> >
> > "We learned the meaning of free-fire zones,
> shooting
> > anything that moves, and we watched while America
> > placed a cheapness on the lives of Orientals."
> >
> >
> >
> > --- dana tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > Sam, this just makes me tired. For a start, he
> did
> > > not say that US
> > > soldiers had committed war crimes. He said that
> > > certain US soldiers
> > > told him they had done so and were upset about
> it. I
> > > don't have time
> > > for the rest of it. Been in my email way too
> long
> > > already.
> > >
> > > Dana
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 14:38:25 -0700 (PDT), Sam
> Morris
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Seems to be much more Bush attacks than Kerry
> on
> > > this
> > > > list so I'll try to even it out a bit.
> > > >
> > > > John Kerry: More 'aid and comfort'...
> > > > Mark Alexander
> > > >
> > > > Kerry is, indubitably, the Left's most "useful
> > > idiot"
> > > > (as V.I. Lenin famously labeled Western
> apologists
> > > for
> > > > socialist propaganda) in contemporary
> politics.
> > > Ion
> > > > Mihai Pacepa, the highest-ranking intelligence
> > > officer
> > > > ever to defect from the Soviet bloc, said of
> > > Kerry's
> > > > anti-American activities during the Vietnam
> War,
> > > "KGB
> > > > priority number one at that time was to damage
> > > > American power, judgment and credibility. ...
> As a
> > > spy
> > > > chief and a general in the former Soviet
> satellite
> > > of
> > > > Romania, I produced the very same vitriol
> Kerry
> > > > repeated to the U.S. Congress almost word for
> word
> > > and
> > > > planted it in leftist movements."
> > > >
> > > > But Kerry's infamous (and unlawful) coddling
> of
> > > > Vietnamese Communists some 35 years ago (see
> "Aid
> > > and
> > > > comfort to the enemy: The Kerry Record...")
> was
> > > not
> > > > his last rendezvous with the Reds. After his
> > > election
> > > > to the Senate in 1984 (as Ted Kennedy's
> > > understudy),
> > > > Kerry spent years dismissing claims by POW
> family
> > > > groups that some Americans were still being
> held
> > > in
> > > > Vietnam and Cambodia. And he has, since, given
> aid
> > > and
> > > > comfort to plenty of other Red regimes,
> including
> > > some
> > > > in this hemisphere.
> > > >
> > > > For example, in 1985 Kerry courted Daniel
> Ortega
> > > and
> > > > his Communist regime in Nicaragua, even
> traveling
> > > to
> > > > visit his "Dear Comandante" in Managua. Kerry
> > > returned
> > > > to the U.S., where he advocated a policy of
> > > > appeasement rather than continued funding of
> > > Ortega's
> > > > opponents, the anti-Communist Contras. In 1988
> > > Kerry
> > > > attempted to make political hay of U.S. policy
> in
> > > > Central America by using his Senate committee
> as a
> > > > launch-pad to accuse George H.W. Bush of
> > > sanctioning a
> > > > Contra drug-smuggling operation that was
> importing
> > > > cocaine into California. The unfounded charges
> > > were,
> > > > not surprisingly, timed to coincide with the
> elder
> > > > Bush's campaign against Massachusetts Governor
> > > Michael
> > > > Dukakis, under whom Kerry had served as
> lieutenant
> > > > governor.
> > > >
> > > > In 1996, Kerry accepted a $10,000 campaign
> > > > contribution in return for arranging a meeting
> > > between
> > > > Honk Kong businesswoman Liu Chaohying and a
> senior
> > > > Securities and Exchange official in order to
> get
> > > > Chaohying's company listed on the U.S. Stock
> > > Exchange.
> > > > Chaohying was a lieutenant colonel in Red
> China's
> > > > People's Liberation Army. That same year,
> Kerry
> > > > traveled to Beijing on a "U.S. trade mission."
> > > Here
> > > > it's worth noting that the ChiComs never
> forget
> > > their
> > > > useful idiots; the People's Daily, the
> official
> > > > newspaper of the Communist Party of China, has
> > > > endorsed Kerry's presidential bid.
> > > >
> > > > But Kerry's fondness for despotic regimes did
> not
> > > > subside in the '90s. In March of this year,
> Kerry
> > > was
> > > > asked on a campaign stop in Florida about his
> > > > affiliation with Cuba's Fidel Castro and his
> > > > oppressive regime. Given the number of Cuban
> > > > expatriates in Florida who fled Castro's slave
> > > island,
> > > > Kerry answered, "I'm pretty tough on Castro.
> ... I
> > > > voted for the Helms-Burton legislation to be
> tough
> > > on
> > > > companies that deal with him." (Would someone
> > > kindly
> > > > cue the laugh track?)
> > > >
> > > > Helms-Burton, you may recall, strengthened the
> > > U.S.
> > > > embargo against Cuba after Fidel's fighter
> jets
> > > shot
> > > > down two single-engine civilian aircraft over
> > > > international waters, killing four Cuban
> ex-pats.
> > > The
> > > > small planes belonged to Brothers to the
> Rescue,
> > > an
> > > > organization of small aircraft owners who
> > > volunteered
> > > > their time flying over the waters between Cuba
> and
> > > the
> > > > Keys, and alerting the Coast Guard when they
> came
> > > upon
> > > > Cuban refugees on makeshift rafts who needed
> > > rescue.
> > > >
> > > > However, Kerry voted against Helms-Burton, and
> he
> > > > later clarified his support for Castro by
> arguing
> > > that
> > > > the embargo should be lifted. "The only reason
> > > [Cuba
> > > > is treated differently from other Communist
> > > nations]
> > > > is the politics of Florida," said Kerry. Of
> > > course,
> > > > the ever-opportunistic Kerry wasn't
> campaigning in
> > > > Florida at the time of that "clarification."
> > > >
> > > > Indeed, John Kerry has a well-documented
> record of
> > > > anti-American activities, especially aiding
> > > Communist
> > > > regimes. But the "aid and comfort" he gave to
> > > North
> > > > Vietnamese Communists in 1971 (while still a
> U.S.
> > > > naval officer, and while Americans were still
> > > > fighting, dying, and being held captive by
> that
> > > > regime) is the most grievous of these
> > > transgressions.
> > > >
> > > > His treasonous actions in 1970-1971 are the
> > > subject of
> > > > an indictment that will be delivered to Senate
> > > > President Dick Cheney, Senate Majority Leader
> Bill
> > > > Frist and Attorney General John Ashcroft on 12
> > > > October. The indictment notes both Kerry's
> UCMJ
> > > and
> > > > U.S. Code (18 USC 2381) violations, and it
> calls
> > > for
> > > > his disqualification for public office in
> > > accordance
> > > > with the Constitution's Fourteenth Amendment,
> > > Section
> > > > 3, which states: "No person shall be a Senator
> or
> > > > Representative in Congress, or elector of
> > > President
> > > > and Vice-President...having previously taken
> an
> > > > oath...to support the Constitution of the
> United
> > > > States, [who has] engaged in insurrection or
> > > rebellion
> > > > against the same, or given aid or comfort to
> the
> > > > enemies thereof."
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
http://federalistpatriot.us/alexander/edition.asp?id=277
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> > > >
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