On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 16:30:03 -0700 (PDT), Sam Morris
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Who said anything about the Swiftboat vets?
>
> But since you brought it up, Kerry did say that. And
> most of the 150 vets he was quoting either weren't
> vets or never went to Vietnam.
>
> -sm
>
> --- dana tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > That's not the quote the swift boat people are
>
>
> > running. The statement went:
> >
> > "several months ago in Detroit, we had an
> > investigation at which over
> > 150 honorably discharged and many very highly
> > decorated veterans
> > testified to war crimes committed in Southeast Asia,
> > not isolated
> > incidents but crimes committed on a day-to-day basis
> > with the full
> > awareness of officers at all levels of command....
> >
> > They told the stories at times they had personally
> > raped, cut off
> > ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable
> > telephones to human
> > genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs,
> > blown up bodies,
> > randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in
> > fashion reminiscent of
> > Genghis Khan"
> >
> > But they quote it as
> >
> > "they had personally raped, cut off ears, cut off
> > heads, taped wires
> > from portable telephones to human genitals and
> > turned up the power,
> > cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at
> > civilians, razed
> > villages in fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan"
> >
> > Dana
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 16:05:15 -0700 (PDT), Sam Morris
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > John Kerry at the Senate Foreign Relations
> > Committee
> > > in 1971.
> > >
> > > "We rationalized destroying villages in order to
> > save
> > > them. We saw America lose her sense of morality as
> > she
> > > accepted very coolly at My Lai and refused to give
> > up
> > > the image of American soldiers who hand out
> > chocolate
> > > bars and chewing gum."
> > >
> > > "We learned the meaning of free-fire zones,
> > shooting
> > > anything that moves, and we watched while America
> > > placed a cheapness on the lives of Orientals."
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- dana tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Sam, this just makes me tired. For a start, he
> > did
> > > > not say that US
> > > > soldiers had committed war crimes. He said that
> > > > certain US soldiers
> > > > told him they had done so and were upset about
> > it. I
> > > > don't have time
> > > > for the rest of it. Been in my email way too
> > long
> > > > already.
> > > >
> > > > Dana
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 14:38:25 -0700 (PDT), Sam
> > Morris
> > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > Seems to be much more Bush attacks than Kerry
> > on
> > > > this
> > > > > list so I'll try to even it out a bit.
> > > > >
> > > > > John Kerry: More 'aid and comfort'...
> > > > > Mark Alexander
> > > > >
> > > > > Kerry is, indubitably, the Left's most "useful
> > > > idiot"
> > > > > (as V.I. Lenin famously labeled Western
> > apologists
> > > > for
> > > > > socialist propaganda) in contemporary
> > politics.
> > > > Ion
> > > > > Mihai Pacepa, the highest-ranking intelligence
> > > > officer
> > > > > ever to defect from the Soviet bloc, said of
> > > > Kerry's
> > > > > anti-American activities during the Vietnam
> > War,
> > > > "KGB
> > > > > priority number one at that time was to damage
> > > > > American power, judgment and credibility. ...
> > As a
> > > > spy
> > > > > chief and a general in the former Soviet
> > satellite
> > > > of
> > > > > Romania, I produced the very same vitriol
> > Kerry
> > > > > repeated to the U.S. Congress almost word for
> > word
> > > > and
> > > > > planted it in leftist movements."
> > > > >
> > > > > But Kerry's infamous (and unlawful) coddling
> > of
> > > > > Vietnamese Communists some 35 years ago (see
> > "Aid
> > > > and
> > > > > comfort to the enemy: The Kerry Record...")
> > was
> > > > not
> > > > > his last rendezvous with the Reds. After his
> > > > election
> > > > > to the Senate in 1984 (as Ted Kennedy's
> > > > understudy),
> > > > > Kerry spent years dismissing claims by POW
> > family
> > > > > groups that some Americans were still being
> > held
> > > > in
> > > > > Vietnam and Cambodia. And he has, since, given
> > aid
> > > > and
> > > > > comfort to plenty of other Red regimes,
> > including
> > > > some
> > > > > in this hemisphere.
> > > > >
> > > > > For example, in 1985 Kerry courted Daniel
> > Ortega
> > > > and
> > > > > his Communist regime in Nicaragua, even
> > traveling
> > > > to
> > > > > visit his "Dear Comandante" in Managua. Kerry
> > > > returned
> > > > > to the U.S., where he advocated a policy of
> > > > > appeasement rather than continued funding of
> > > > Ortega's
> > > > > opponents, the anti-Communist Contras. In 1988
> > > > Kerry
> > > > > attempted to make political hay of U.S. policy
> > in
> > > > > Central America by using his Senate committee
> > as a
> > > > > launch-pad to accuse George H.W. Bush of
> > > > sanctioning a
> > > > > Contra drug-smuggling operation that was
> > importing
> > > > > cocaine into California. The unfounded charges
> > > > were,
> > > > > not surprisingly, timed to coincide with the
> > elder
> > > > > Bush's campaign against Massachusetts Governor
> > > > Michael
> > > > > Dukakis, under whom Kerry had served as
> > lieutenant
> > > > > governor.
> > > > >
> > > > > In 1996, Kerry accepted a $10,000 campaign
> > > > > contribution in return for arranging a meeting
> > > > between
> > > > > Honk Kong businesswoman Liu Chaohying and a
> > senior
> > > > > Securities and Exchange official in order to
> > get
> > > > > Chaohying's company listed on the U.S. Stock
> > > > Exchange.
> > > > > Chaohying was a lieutenant colonel in Red
> > China's
> > > > > People's Liberation Army. That same year,
> > Kerry
> > > > > traveled to Beijing on a "U.S. trade mission."
> > > > Here
> > > > > it's worth noting that the ChiComs never
> > forget
> > > > their
> > > > > useful idiots; the People's Daily, the
> > official
> > > > > newspaper of the Communist Party of China, has
> > > > > endorsed Kerry's presidential bid.
> > > > >
> > > > > But Kerry's fondness for despotic regimes did
> > not
> > > > > subside in the '90s. In March of this year,
> > Kerry
> > > > was
> > > > > asked on a campaign stop in Florida about his
> > > > > affiliation with Cuba's Fidel Castro and his
> > > > > oppressive regime. Given the number of Cuban
> > > > > expatriates in Florida who fled Castro's slave
> > > > island,
> > > > > Kerry answered, "I'm pretty tough on Castro.
> > ... I
> > > > > voted for the Helms-Burton legislation to be
> > tough
> > > > on
> > > > > companies that deal with him." (Would someone
> > > > kindly
> > > > > cue the laugh track?)
> > > > >
> > > > > Helms-Burton, you may recall, strengthened the
> > > > U.S.
> > > > > embargo against Cuba after Fidel's fighter
> > jets
> > > > shot
> > > > > down two single-engine civilian aircraft over
> > > > > international waters, killing four Cuban
> > ex-pats.
> > > > The
> > > > > small planes belonged to Brothers to the
> > Rescue,
> > > > an
> > > > > organization of small aircraft owners who
> > > > volunteered
> > > > > their time flying over the waters between Cuba
> > and
> > > > the
> > > > > Keys, and alerting the Coast Guard when they
> > came
> > > > upon
> > > > > Cuban refugees on makeshift rafts who needed
> > > > rescue.
> > > > >
> > > > > However, Kerry voted against Helms-Burton, and
> > he
> > > > > later clarified his support for Castro by
> > arguing
> > > > that
> > > > > the embargo should be lifted. "The only reason
> > > > [Cuba
> > > > > is treated differently from other Communist
> > > > nations]
> > > > > is the politics of Florida," said Kerry. Of
> > > > course,
> > > > > the ever-opportunistic Kerry wasn't
> > campaigning in
> > > > > Florida at the time of that "clarification."
> > > > >
> > > > > Indeed, John Kerry has a well-documented
> > record of
> > > > > anti-American activities, especially aiding
> > > > Communist
> > > > > regimes. But the "aid and comfort" he gave to
> > > > North
> > > > > Vietnamese Communists in 1971 (while still a
> > U.S.
> > > > > naval officer, and while Americans were still
> > > > > fighting, dying, and being held captive by
> > that
> > > > > regime) is the most grievous of these
> > > > transgressions.
> > > > >
> > > > > His treasonous actions in 1970-1971 are the
> > > > subject of
> > > > > an indictment that will be delivered to Senate
> > > > > President Dick Cheney, Senate Majority Leader
> > Bill
> > > > > Frist and Attorney General John Ashcroft on 12
> > > > > October. The indictment notes both Kerry's
> > UCMJ
> > > > and
> > > > > U.S. Code (18 USC 2381) violations, and it
> > calls
> > > > for
> > > > > his disqualification for public office in
> > > > accordance
> > > > > with the Constitution's Fourteenth Amendment,
> > > > Section
> > > > > 3, which states: "No person shall be a Senator
> > or
> > > > > Representative in Congress, or elector of
> > > > President
> > > > > and Vice-President...having previously taken
> > an
> > > > > oath...to support the Constitution of the
> > United
> > > > > States, [who has] engaged in insurrection or
> > > > rebellion
> > > > > against the same, or given aid or comfort to
> > the
> > > > > enemies thereof."
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
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> > > > >
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