requiring SUV's to fit within the CAFE standards, and since they are
no longer light utility trucks, they would have to comply with crash
and rollover safety standards.
larry
On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 10:23:46 -0700 (PDT), Sam Morris
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I don't agree. Classify SUV's as cars and bring back
> the sin tax. Cafe tax I think? It cost more taxes to
> by a wagon than an eight-mile-a-gallon SUV or keep the
> SUV's of the parkways on LI! If there trucks they
> should have to use the LIE. That'll fix them :)
>
> Don't forget this is a big country and supplies are
> mainly trucked around the country. You tax the
> trucker's fuel also and that'll raise prices of goods.
>
> -sm
>
> --- Andy Ousterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Sam,
> > Actually, I would follow a policy of steady,
> > predictable increases in oil
> > taxes. This would create a market for more energy
> > efficient vehicles, etc.
> > And is perhaps one of the only ways to reduce our
> > dependence on foreign energy
> > sources.
> >
> > Andy
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Sam Morris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 12:08 PM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Re: Economists: Both Plans Flawed
> >
> >
> > I thought Europe and Asia paid the same per barrel
> > for
> > oil as the US but taxed the hell out of it.
> > Which reminds me of Gruss' hero Paul O'Neill
> > wanting
> > to add a $10 per barrel tax on oil.
> >
> > -sm
> >
> > --- Won Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > >But the country must do a better job of finding
> > > >alternative energy sources and conserving: "We
> > need
> > > to
> > > >wean away from OPEC oil for the economy and for
> > > >national security reasons," Sohn said.
> > >
> > > I agree with almost everything that was written
> > > although I do feel that the
> > > policies that will be implemented if Kerry were
> > > President would be more
> > > effective. I'm largely basing that statement
> > that
> > > the Republican Congress
> > > would control/balance a Democratic President,
> > > something they were unwilling
> > > or unable to do while Bush was in the White
> > House.
> > >
> > > The part that I disagree with is the paragraph I
> > > copied. Weaning away from
> > > OPEC oil wouldn't substantially have a major
> > price
> > > impact. We have to get
> > > that oil from some place. And even if we got
> > that
> > > oil from a non-OPEC
> > > contry like Russia; supply and demand would
> > dictate
> > > that oil prices are
> > > going to go up.
> > >
> > > Imagine this scenario. The US purchases a 100%
> > of
> > > foreign oil from
> > > Russa. OPEC countries have a supply disruption.
> > > Other countries like
> > > China that depend on OPEC oil are going to drive
> > up
> > > the price of oil in the
> > > open market. They will turn to Russia and other
> > > OPEC countries and offer
> > > more money for said oil. Now China is buying
> > more
> > > Russian oil which
> > > increases the price for oil for the US. And
> > this
> > > price increase doesn't
> > > even factor in the larger quantity that OPEC
> > > outputs.
> > >
> > > OPEC, despite their many blunders and cartel
> > like
> > > regime, is a very very
> > > powerful institution. This highlights the
> > > importance of crude oil. I used
> > > to live in London and Asia but have spent the
> > last
> > > 13 years in America. I
> > > visited Asia last winter and even though I knew
> > gas
> > > prices were ridicules
> > > in the rest of the world, I was still shocked.
> > I
> > > was shocked how expensive
> > > it was. I was shocked that they sold it in
> > liters.
> > > I buy Diet Coke in
> > > liters, not gas.
> > >
> > > The god damn stock market has been moving lock
> > in
> > > step with crude oil
> > > prices. This is driving me mad.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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