Andy...

with all due respect, I did read what Dana was responding to.  I read
Dana's response.  And I read that you disagreed with it, and why.  Yet
your 'why' had nothing to do with what Dana said.

Perhaps you should read a little bit more carefully yourself before
offering that advice to others?

On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 21:44:42 -0500, Andy Ousterhout
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Charlie,
> Please read what Dana is responding too before commenting.
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 9:31 PM
>   To: CF-Community
>   Subject: Re: Cheney's daughter is gay
>
>   you disagree with what?  Dana never said Cheney mentioned her -more-.
>   Dana said Cheney 'introduced' her to the public.  So what exactly
>   about Dana's statement is it you're disagreeing with?
>
>   > On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 21:00:58 -0500, Andy Ousterhout
>   > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   > > Kerry has mentioned her more than Dick has.  Sorry, I disagree.
>
>   > >   -----Original Message-----
>   > >   From: dana tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   > >   Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 6:33 PM
>   > >   To: CF-Community
>   > >   Subject: Re: Cheney's daughter is gay
>   > >
>   > >   Andy
>   > >
>   > >   Her own father has already brought her into the poitical arena. At
>   > >   that point she ceased to be a private person and became an extension
>   > >   of her father's public persona.
>   > >
>   > >   Dana
>   > >
>   > >   On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 18:18:43 -0500, Andy Ousterhout
>   > >   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   > >   > I disagree strongly with the author and all of you who say that
> Kerry can
>   > >   > mention Mary in any context he wants.  It is in poor taste for Kerry
> to
>   > > keep
>   > >   > using Mary's name and sexual orientation unless he has her
> permission,
>   > > which
>   > >   > I
>   > >   > doubt.  He has no right to bring up her religion, method of dress,
> nada.
>   > > It
>   > >   > has nothing to do with her sexual orientation, and everything to do
> with
>   > > her
>   > >   > privacy.
>   > >   >
>   > >   > Andy
>   > >   >
>   > >   >
>   > >   >
>   > >   > -----Original Message-----
>   > >   > From: Jim Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   > >   > Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 4:40 PM
>   > >   > To: CF-Community
>   > >   > Subject: Re: Cheney's daughter is gay
>   > >   >
>   > >   >   Because the administration, of whom this girls father is a major
> figure,
>   > >   >   supports a constitutional amendment to specifically marginalize a
>   > >   >   certain group of the population, of whom this girl is a
> not-so-secret
>   > >   >   member.  Pointing out rank hypocrisies is par for the course,
>   > > politically.
>   > >   >
>   > >   >   Andrew Sullivan had a very good observation on the different
> reactions
>   > >   >   to Kerry's remark last night.  I'd just be parroting his points by
>   > >   >   reiterating them, so here's the links if you want to read them.
>   > >   >
>   > >   >   http://tinyurl.com/6sz59
>   > >   >
>   > >   >   In a nutshell, Kerry didn't do anything scurrilous, and the gasps
> of
>   > >   >   horror from conservatives is another telling indicator of rank
>   > > homophobia.
>   > >   >
>   > >   >   - Jim
>   > >   >
>   > >   >   Sam Morris wrote:
>   > >   >
>   > >   >   >Surprised nobodies mentioned this.
>   > >   >   >
>   > >   >   >Why do the Johns keep outing this girl?
>   > >   >   >
>   > >   >   >-sm
>   > >   >   >
>   > >   >   >
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