--- Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> He said he was ordered into combat with certain
> equipment and methods
> that, in retrospect, he considered war crimes.

Where did the retrospect come from? Did you add it?


> I don't consider war crimes a "good thing" I
> consider the fact that
> when he returned (or earlier) he realized what he
> was doing was wrong
> and chose to speak out a good thing.

So you think what he said was true? What part(s)? The
crimes he committed or the ones thousands of soldiers
like him committed?
 
> The problem I have with all of this is that in the
> fog of war what's
> not a war crime?  Obviously you can point out the
> huge systemic
> problems like Mai Lai or Abu GrabA** but overall
> stuff happens.

The burning of villages was in the fog of war so it's
ok?

> I'm sorry that you're lost.  Here's the key point to
> this thread: Mr.
> Kerry never claimed to have actually committed the
> crimes he listed in
> his congressional testimony as the Swifties have
> implied.


I didn't know we were talking about the swifties, I
knew you originally referenced the testimony and
decided he didn't commit any atrocities. I pointed out
that in his own words he did. You said I helped his
cause and now the swifties lied. I need a map :)

-sm




                
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