You can't pick Republicans around the country you like
to prove you're in the center.
Stick with people you�ve voted for or can vote for.
You keep rejecting a label but it fits. You just need
to come to realize you have a blinding hatred of
President Bush. You say the Iraq war as a reason to
vote against him but Kerry said he probably would have
also removed him, why aren't you against Kerry? You
say Bush turned the world against us and Kerry will
fix that. Kerry said he might have removed Saddam with
the help of all the other nations. It's a fantasy that
makes no sense and you believe it. You keep attacking
President Bush with far-fetched rumors or your gut
feeling and I keep defending him with facts. If you
used facts or at least admitted your statements are
wild guess rather then fact you�d be much closer to
the middle. Try it.
You think being fiscally conservative evens things
out. Most people are fiscally concretive when it comes
to government. The rare few that aren't are either
getting jobs out of the pork programs or their friends
are getting jobs. I don't feel that's the case with
Bush because of the rare situation we're in.
You claim you support the pay as you go plan and
Clinton was so great at balancing the budget. If you
really were a fiscal conservative I'm sure you'd be
aware of what Clinton really did. He did not eliminate
the deficit. He wrote a big IOU and put it in the
Social Security "Lock Box". While the economy was
booming due to the Internet, not Clinton raising
taxes, Clinton claimed the next 15 years worth of
growth would pay the IOU. And it would have, except
the .com bubble burst. Then the recession came. Later
we found out about all the corporate scandals that
were going on in the late 90's. That IOU is still in
the lock box, never really balanced the budget. So
much for pay as you go!
--- Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If you then impose left-center-right on that, I'd
> place myself to the
> right because I'm willing to sacrifice social issues
> for fiscal
> conservatism. For example,
>
> In MN I like Gov Pawlenty who is Republican.
> In CA I like Gov Schwartzenegger, also Republican.
>
> For Senators I like Joe Biden, Chuck Hagel, Dick
> Luger, and John
> McCain. 3 Republicans and 1 Democrat.
>
>
> Demagogues and pedagogues use labels to manipulate
> people - by using
> the "we're this label and they're that label"
> argument, they trigger
> the us-and-them instinct.
>
> This technique is successful because many people
> can't mentally
> comprehend a complex world, and others can, but
> don't like to. So
> they try to make the world simpler by applying
> labels, making things
> black and white, and ignoring evidence that may
> indicate otherwise.
>
> It's a complex world, but when someone insists on
> labeling people I
> realize that they're simple.
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