>From what I've read, there isn't going to be a 4.0 P4 chip. It's not even on 
>the cards anymore. 
Just as all the reviews about the P4 said, it was a flawed design that Intel 
lazily brought out because they felt they owned the
market. 
But faced with competition from AMD they are crumbling. They don't have a solid 
foundation in the P4 chips on which to build. They
were getting by through brute force, simply throwing more MHz out, while the 
chips flaws lingered. And now they have finally hit the
point where the poor design can no longer be hidden, heat and power consumption 
doomed the P4. I figure Intel must be doing some
sort of drastic architecture re-design in the interim, and hence decided to 
skip this battle and cede to AMD for the time being,
perhaps knowing that with its advertising machine it isn't going to loose 
totally.

The only place that Intel still has AMD thoroughly beat, is in marketing. That 
is what has kept them going ahead of AMD for the last
six years. 
Intel's marketing juggurnaut is something that so far AMD has not been able to 
match.

I expect to see AMD's Dual Core solution out before Intel's and running better 
than Intel's as well :).

-Gel  

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From: Robert Munn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Multicore would seem to be the way to go, but maybe there is some other issue 
with that. Maybe they are hoping the next stepping in
die shrink will help them. Where are they now, .13 micron? AMD really has 
Intel's nuts in a sling in a bad way. Unless they have
some killer product waiting in the wings that they have kept totally in the 
dark, they could be trailing AMD at the high end for the
foreseable future.

They might be on a totally different tack though. What about the Pentium M 
architecture? If I was Intel, I would get every ounce I
could out of that chip because the power profile is so awesome and AMD has 
nothing really comparable to compete head to head.
Corproate PCs don't need 3.0 GHz chips much less 4.0 GHz, so why not push all 
low-power systems for now?



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