that about fits with what I am seeing in my research; that AMD till
now has been a follower and all of a sudden... they are the innovators
and Intel is doing the following. Just seeing what other people think.
I saw something on Tom's Hardware that I haven't had a chance to read
yet that seemed to be saying that the latest P4 actually caught fire
when they were trying to benchmark it... that's kind of a major flaw
<g>


On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 07:13:30 -0400, Angel Stewart
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >From what I've read, there isn't going to be a 4.0 P4 chip. It's not even on 
> >the cards anymore.
> Just as all the reviews about the P4 said, it was a flawed design that Intel 
> lazily brought out because they felt they owned the
> market.
> But faced with competition from AMD they are crumbling. They don't have a 
> solid foundation in the P4 chips on which to build. They
> were getting by through brute force, simply throwing more MHz out, while the 
> chips flaws lingered. And now they have finally hit the
> point where the poor design can no longer be hidden, heat and power 
> consumption doomed the P4. I figure Intel must be doing some
> sort of drastic architecture re-design in the interim, and hence decided to 
> skip this battle and cede to AMD for the time being,
> perhaps knowing that with its advertising machine it isn't going to loose 
> totally.
> 
> The only place that Intel still has AMD thoroughly beat, is in marketing. 
> That is what has kept them going ahead of AMD for the last
> six years.
> Intel's marketing juggurnaut is something that so far AMD has not been able 
> to match.
> 
> I expect to see AMD's Dual Core solution out before Intel's and running 
> better than Intel's as well :).
> 
> -Gel
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Munn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Multicore would seem to be the way to go, but maybe there is some other issue 
> with that. Maybe they are hoping the next stepping in
> die shrink will help them. Where are they now, .13 micron? AMD really has 
> Intel's nuts in a sling in a bad way. Unless they have
> some killer product waiting in the wings that they have kept totally in the 
> dark, they could be trailing AMD at the high end for the
> foreseable future.
> 
> They might be on a totally different tack though. What about the Pentium M 
> architecture? If I was Intel, I would get every ounce I
> could out of that chip because the power profile is so awesome and AMD has 
> nothing really comparable to compete head to head.
> Corproate PCs don't need 3.0 GHz chips much less 4.0 GHz, so why not push all 
> low-power systems for now?
> 
> 

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