The video clips are very well edited. What they do not show is the full story. That British Medical Journal article that I cited earlier had a good diagnosis of the condition
"Patients in a vegetative state seem to be awake with their eyes open but show no evidence of awareness. They do not interact with others and make no purposeful or voluntary responses to visual, auditory, tactile, or noxious stimuli. They are able to breathe spontaneously, and they retain their gag, cough, sucking, and swallowing reflexes. Sleep-wake cycles are preserved, and so are the hypothalamic and brain stem autonomic responses. They are incontinent of urine and faeces, but they may retain their cranial nerve, spinal, and primitive reflexes. Inconsistent non-purposive movements occur, notably facial grimacing and chewing; they make sounds; and they may show inconsistent auditory and oculomotor orienting reflexes to peripheral sounds or movement. The diagnosis of a vegetative state is not tenable if there is any degree of voluntary movement, sustained visual pursuit, consistent and reproducible visual fixation, or response to threatening gestures." The medical documents that the courts have released suggest that this diagnosis fits the Shaivo case very well. Her EEG show no higher functioning, just low level autonomic nervous system responses. You get the same when you put the electrodes in a bowel of jello and place it on the top of the machine. larry On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 10:46:44 -0700, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > my god I am agreeing with Sam. But yes, I have seen the site and > that's why I say she doesn't look dead to me. I realize that they will > have chosen the clips that support their point but if there are ANY, > if this woman is aware at all, what are the ethics of pulling the > plug? I was not, however, aware that here was any money left, but > there is your motive if that's true. > > Larry I need to leave but I will take a look at that link a bit later. > > Dana > > > On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 09:33:37 -0800, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Tell him that's not true. > > > > Since Feb '93 they've been trying to remove him as guardian. Terri was > > awarded $1.4 million from a malpractice lawsuit that goes to her > > medical care. If she dies her husband inherits what's left, about $1 > > million. > > > > Ironically, Michael Schiavo never mentioned her so called wishes until > > after the monetary award. Since then he's been trying to kill her. > > > > Also, he's been living with his fiance for ten years and has two kids with > > her. > > > > Main concern is they want to kill her by starvation. She's not on life > > support. > > > > Lot's of stuff. > > http://www.terrisfight.org/ > > > > On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 09:34:38 -0700, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > about a month or two ago? Christmastime? I suppose I could have > > > misunderstood, but I don't think so.... > > > > > > If they are not willing to pay for her care, the issue in my mind is > > > somewhat different. To be blunt, if we are talking public health > > > dollars, then the issue of triage perhaps should apply, especially if > > > the matter is as hopeless as Larry says it is. > > > > > > Dana > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:144600 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
