You did not follow what the president and presidental representatives have been saying to the Canadian press and in meetings with Canadian officials. A good example here is the outgoing US ambassador - many of his comments have been threatening to Canada. Moreover there is also the issue of Bush's recent visit to Canada. He made some remarks to the PM that were overheard and reported on, they were quite threatening.
First off there have been threats of trade sanctions, and arbitrary changes to FTA and NAFTA from administration officials and embassy personnel. That would fit most nations definitions of bullying. Moreover what the administration wants Canada to do as part of the SDI goes well beyond the NORAD agreements, and in some cases also violates UN treaty agreements again the weaponization of space. On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 13:37:25 -0500, Michael Dinowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How is this sucking up to a bully? Canada signed a defense agreement. They > are backing away from their signed word because of (as some see it), world > opinion. I see no bully here. I see a country announcing that they do not > intend to honor their word. How is the US bullying Canada? > As for SDI, don't always believe everything you see in the media. There's a > LOT going on that the media will never see till its used and we all know > where it'll be used first (just not when). > > > > Its not that being a real friend to the US is no longer cool. No its > > more like SDI just doesn't work, even when the test was rigged for it > > to succeed. Broken thing not cool. It also doesn't help that the US > > has been bullying Canada over this. Last I checked sucking up to a > > bully is also not cool. > > > > larry > > > > > > On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 13:17:36 -0500, Tony Weeg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> i personally think its sad that our neighbors to the north are kinda > >> backing down from their us affiliation partly because its no longer cool > >> to be friends with the us. fuck if it wasnt for us... canada might be > >> russian right > >> now... and that wouldnt be good either... > >> > >> tw > >> > >> On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 13:04:01 -0500, Larry C. Lyons > >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > So you think that there is no such thing as sovereignty and air > >> > rights. Also in that case I guess that the arguments the US put > >> > forward since the 50's regarding control of US air space was specious > >> > - hey the aircraft/missile was over 10 feet from the ground. > >> > > >> > On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 12:20:41 -0500, Michael Dinowitz > >> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > > If a missile launched at America is over Canada, then I believe it is > >> > > not > >> > > only allowed but required to shoot it down. We're not talking a > >> > > missile at > >> > > 10 feet over the ground. When it's over Canada, it's miles up. When > >> > > it's > >> > > over the Arctic, it's miles up and not over Canada. > >> > > We're talking lives here. We're talking a specific situation where > >> > > lives are > >> > > at risk. When it comes to saving lives, I say screw airspace! save > >> > > people > >> > > before political posturing. > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > So its OK to violate another nation's sovereignty whenever you want > >> > > > and with no consequences. I guess the converse would also be true, > >> > > > other nations can violate US airspace at will then without > >> > > > consequences. > >> > > > > >> > > > Typical US attitude - screw the rest of the world, especially your > >> > > > allies. Real brilliant.It will get to the point that the only US > >> > > > allies will be paid. > >> > > > > >> > > > As for the missile tracks - remember where a good third of the > >> > > > ICBM's > >> > > > are based, and how many of those russian nukes are really > >> > > > controlled > >> > > > by Moscow. > >> > > > > >> > > > larry > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 11:33:39 -0500, Michael Dinowitz > >> > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > > >> OK, so we either have to keep the Canadians happy or we can save > >> > > >> our > >> > > >> rears. I go for the latter. Screw diplomacy, save my hide! > >> > > >> http://www.myrtlebeachonline.com/mld/myrtlebeachonline/news/nation/10997668.htm > >> > > >> > >> > > >> (though chances are we'll never see a missile attack come through > >> > > >> Canadian air space and they know it. Just posturing) > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:148628 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
