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the basic NATO treaty, article 5 signed in 1949: -- Article 5 The Parties agree that an armed attack against one or more of them in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all and consequently they agree that, if such an armed attack occurs, each of them, in exercise of the right of individual or collective self-defence recognised by Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations, will assist the Party or Parties so attacked by taking forthwith, individually and in concert with the other Parties, such action as it deems necessary, including the use of armed force, to restore and maintain the security of the North Atlantic area. Any such armed attack and all measures taken as a result thereof shall immediately be reported to the Security Council. Such measures shall be terminated when the Security Council has taken the measures necessary to restore and maintain international peace and security . -- NORAD treaty provisions are similar. larry On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 13:23:42 -0500, Michael Dinowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can you point to where this is documented? > If this is the case (and I don't doubt you), then it's just politicians dick > waggling again. > > > IIRC, the NATO agreement states that attack against one member nation is > > an > > attack against all member nations. > > > > If there is a missile attack against the US, it is my understanding that > > Canada, as a NATO member is the responsibility to assist the US in its own > > defense, this Canadian position goes against NORAD, and NATO. > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 1:04 PM > >> To: CF-Community > >> Subject: Re: No Defense over Canada > >> > >> So you think that there is no such thing as sovereignty and air > >> rights. Also in that case I guess that the arguments the US put > >> forward since the 50's regarding control of US air space was specious > >> - hey the aircraft/missile was over 10 feet from the ground. > >> > >> > >> On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 12:20:41 -0500, Michael Dinowitz > >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > If a missile launched at America is over Canada, then I believe it is > >> not > >> > only allowed but required to shoot it down. We're not talking a missile > >> at > >> > 10 feet over the ground. When it's over Canada, it's miles up. When > >> > it's > >> > over the Arctic, it's miles up and not over Canada. > >> > We're talking lives here. We're talking a specific situation where > >> > lives > >> are > >> > at risk. When it comes to saving lives, I say screw airspace! save > >> people > >> > before political posturing. > >> > > >> > > >> > > So its OK to violate another nation's sovereignty whenever you want > >> > > and with no consequences. I guess the converse would also be true, > >> > > other nations can violate US airspace at will then without > >> > > consequences. > >> > > > >> > > Typical US attitude - screw the rest of the world, especially your > >> > > allies. Real brilliant.It will get to the point that the only US > >> > > allies will be paid. > >> > > > >> > > As for the missile tracks - remember where a good third of the ICBM's > >> > > are based, and how many of those russian nukes are really controlled > >> > > by Moscow. > >> > > > >> > > larry > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 11:33:39 -0500, Michael Dinowitz > >> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> OK, so we either have to keep the Canadians happy or we can save our > >> > >> rears. I go for the latter. Screw diplomacy, save my hide! > >> > >> > >> http://www.myrtlebeachonline.com/mld/myrtlebeachonline/news/nation/1099766 > >> 8.htm > >> > >> > >> > >> (though chances are we'll never see a missile attack come through > >> > >> Canadian air space and they know it. Just posturing) > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| All-in-one: antivirus, antispam, firewall for your PC and PDA. Buy Trend Micro PC-cillin Internet Security http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=60 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:148623 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
