No sam, didn't you get the memo? Any evidence that she is not in fact PVS is wishful thinking on the parents' part.
Dana On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 09:38:52 -0800, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does this help at all? It's an affidavit from last year. > > http://www.hospicepatients.org/heidi-law-09-03-affidavit-re-terri-schiavo-michael.html > > At least three times during any shift where I took care of Terri, I > made sure to give Terri a wet washcloth filled with ice chips, to keep > her mouth moistened. I personally saw her swallow the ice water and > never saw her gag. > "[Another CNA] and I frequently put orange juice or apple juice in her > washcloth to give her something nice to taste, which made her happy. > On three or four occasions I personally fed Terri small mouthfuls of > Jello, which she was able to swallow and enjoyed immensely." > > 15. During the time I cared for Terri, she formed words. I have heard > her say "mommy" from time to time, and "momma," and she also said > "help me" a number of times. She would frequently make noises like > she was trying to talk. Other staff members talked about her > verbalizations. > > > On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 11:44:59 -0500, Bill Wheatley wrote: > > Nah none of what he called her matters. Dana points out he has not > > acted as her husband for a long time and that somehow equates that to > > being a reason for him lose his rights as her guardian. > > > > 1) It does not matter, the piece of paper is still the piece of paper > > and no matter how you behave until you're divorced it is still the way > > it is. If i died today my wife would still be able to decide what > > happens to my body even though we haven't seen each other in 3 years. > > 2) If i was in his position i don't think i could sit by her bed alone > > the whole time i was going through it. I would probably find someone > > else too. And i can see how i might get resentful over time at all the > > stuff thats going on and say something out of anger. > > > > And I don't know if a feeding tube falls under HEROIC EFFORT either. > > But it should go along with a DNR if you don't want to be hooked up to > > any machines then you shouldn't be hooked up. I can't imagine how > > horrible a way to die starving is but until our country allows > > physican assisted suicide its the only way possible (Being removed > > from machines keeping you alive). And myself personally i would not > > want to be like that. I would want to given a lethal dose of morphine > > or precluding that i would want to be disconnected from the machines. > > Be it a feeding machine or a ventilator. I mean people including my gf > > have said its a horrible way to die and I would say dieing itself is > > horrible and i have come close to drowning before so i know how sucky > > it must be to have your ventilator pulled and not be able to breath. > > Sure you die faster but is it a less painful death? Nobody can say. > > > > Just because they are her parents does not make them right. And just > > because the hubby has made some mistakes doesn't mean he did not know > > her wishes. > > > > But what shouldn't be happening is the federal government jumping into > > a case that has been upheld all the way to the FL supreme court. The > > US Supreme court would not hear the case maybe because it is such a > > firestorm but maybe because they think there was no need and that the > > merits spoke for themselves. > > > > I think this is the point bluntly: > > We as humans should be able to do whatever we want with our bodies. > > It's not the f'ing govt's business. It is certainly not these > > buttheads business who keep jumping in and protesting because somehow > > in their heads they draw a parallel to abortion. It really should be > > private. So it is really the case of 2 parents who can't accept the > > fact that their little girl is gone. And even above that they can't > > respect her ADULT wishes of never wanting that to happen to her. > > > > BTW guys if i ever die and for some reason my living will was not > > executed (because the govt started second guessing us to if we really > > meant it) please point them to this thread so they can see i want to > > have my plug pulled if i can't speak for myself. *shrugs* > > > > Sucky case and its sucky that the republicans are taking this on > > because they think the democrats have a weak case. And also because > > they want to screw with bill nelson. Anyone who plays politics with > > this shit should be shot. Any republican any democrat whoever tries to > > use this crap as a political goldmine needs to be drug out on their > > ass. > > > > But that's not what will happen people who believe its murder etc etc > > will rally around the republicans and say YES they are fighting for > > this poor innocent woman. That is horsecrap, they don't give a flying > > feather about her, especially since she can't vote :>. > > > > I have a prediction where this will go. The us govt tries to step its > > nose into peoples lives too far the supreme court will get involved > > and overrule the law for whatever reason and she will die. EVENTUALLY > > but she will die. Maybe the republicans will even go for a > > consitutional amendment if it gets overruled. > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:151078 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
