LOL yea CP won't work with ADHD most of the time. Especially if they
have it with aggressive behavior that some kids get. I couldn't do
anything physical with megan because she did not have the attention
span either way to know what the hell i was hitting her for.


On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 11:50:18 -0700, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Welp, I have smacked my kids and frankly I think it did me more good
> than them. So I agree with you. One exception is that when Lara was a
> toddler she had REAL issues in focussing and sometimes a small smack
> upside the head as they say, got her attention, as in, hey you, do you
> hear your mother saying DON'T PLAY WITH THE CAMPFIRE?
> 
> While I see little wrong with minor corporal punishment I don't think
> it is the best solution, ever, with the possible exception of the
> above. Nor do I consider a belt to be especially minor either...
> but my experience with spanking was that the child would either get
> angry or upset and rarely associated the punishment with the misdeed.
> Now, both my kids are adhd-diagnosed and so other people's mileage may
> vary.
> 
> Dana
> 
> On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 12:40:59 -0600, Deanna Schneider
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Yah, it's Skinner-esque, and like I said, I won't gaurantee that I'll
> > never swat him. But, I do hope that if I do it's not out of anger or
> > frustration - which I think is how most people use physical
> > punishment. I mean, I'd never hit my husband just because I'm mad at
> > him. Why would I hit my child?
> >
> > On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 13:02:56 -0500, Jim Davis
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Deanna Schneider [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 12:37 PM
> > > > To: CF-Community
> > > > Subject: Re: You know it's been a tough day at kindergarten when ...
> > > >
> > > > Well, I still don't really believe in hitting. I watched an
> > > > interaction between a dad and daughter in the aiport the other day.
> > > > Long story short, he swatted her on the butt, and her response to was
> > > > to hit him back.
> > >
> > > True - but it can also be effective if done right.  What I think most
> > > parents miss is the "Set up".  You just can't hit and expect it to be
> > > effective.  Just plain hitting provokes the playground response to hit 
> > > back.
> > >
> > > Hitting/spanking/whatever should be a planned punishment like any other -
> > > even if that plan is short.  Both of my kids have been swatted.  But 
> > > before
> > > I do I tell them about it, then I count to three.  After "three" they got
> > > the swat.
> > >
> > > In very short order only the counting was needed well over 99% of the 
> > > time.
> > > (With that very occasional carry-through to reinforce things.)
> > >
> > > My father's case was similar - my grandfather used the belt.  Just the
> > > action of unbuckling would deal with most problems.
> > >
> > > It's all very Skinnerian but it seems to work for us.
> > >
> > > Jim Davis
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> 
> 

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