The guy whom I got the information was spent four months biking through
pakistan alone (he has done a great deal of asia and europe over the years)
and said that the folks up north were much more "western", less sexist and
less anti american.  I would gather this was his perception and a
generalization rather than statistics he gathered.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Simon Horwith [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 1:19 PM
> To:   CF-Community
> Subject:      RE: Taliban abandons city of Jalalabad
> 
> There aren't really any "anti - American" parts of Pakistan... and the
> only
> concentrations of Anti-American people there are in the cities... which
> makes sense.  I will likely be in Northern Pakistan if I go at all... just
> for convenience sake.  I'm sure it'll be a blast whether I go to Pakistan
> at
> all or not... but it'd be nice if I could make it there for a few days.
> 
> ~Simon
> 
> Simon Horwith
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> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 5:10 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Taliban abandons city of Jalalabad
> 
> 
> It seems to me, we've heard a lot less about protests from Muslims in
> other
> countries since the Taliban started falling and people started dancing in
> the streets.
> 
> People talk about the need for America to do a better job of spreading
> it's
> own propaganda in the Muslim world.
> 
> I can't think of better propaganda than people dancing in the streets when
> an oppressive, fanatical government is driven in to retreat.
> 
> H.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fleischer, Beth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 10:33 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Taliban abandons city of Jalalabad
> 
> 
> Supposedly the northern part of pakistan, near china, is not as
> anti-american as the rest of it, although some of this may have changed
> with
> the war.  I was looking at doing a bike trip from there into China, and
> was
> reassured that I would be safe as an american woman travelling alone,
> which
> is not really true in most of pakistan.  So perhaps if you can visit the
> north, it might be best.
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:       Simon Horwith [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent:       Thursday, November 15, 2001 7:49 AM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject:    RE: Taliban abandons city of Jalalabad
> >
> > I'll tell you one thing.... this should make my trip to India pretty
> > interesting :)
> > I may be visiting Pakistan for a few days while there.  Then again, I
> may
> > not.
> >
> > ~Simon
> >
> > Simon Horwith
> > Macromedia Certified Instructor
> > Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer
> > Fig Leaf Software
> > 1400 16th St NW, # 500
> > Washington DC 20036
> > 202.797.6570 (direct line)
> > www.figleaf.com
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 11:51 AM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: RE: Taliban abandons city of Jalalabad
> >
> >
> > Yesterday I heard that Pakistan's border was easily crossed and that
> some
> > 8,000 Taliban fighters had escaped into Pakistan unchallenged ... and
> the
> > speculation was, how does Pakistan not know that Bin Laden was among
> those
> > 8,000 men.
> >
> > Then this morning I heard that Pakistan had moved some 30,000 troops to
> > the
> > border to keep Taliban (and Bin Laden) out.
> >
> > Of course, I don't know how comfortable I feel with Pakistan having that
> > large of a troop mass on it's border with Afghanistan at this stage.
> >
> > H.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Will Swain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 7:46 AM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: RE: Taliban abandons city of Jalalabad
> >
> >
> > exactly, mind you, you have to ask whether Bin LAden is still in
> > Afghanistan. I wouldn't be, if I were him I'd be in Pakistan rabble
> > rousing.
> >
> > will
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: 15 November 2001 15:49
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: RE: Taliban abandons city of Jalalabad
> >
> >
> > Afghans are allowed to switch sides.  But if your from Pakastan or Saudi
> > Arabia and you fought for the Taliban, or supported the Taliban, and you
> > get
> > caught now, you're probably dead.
> >
> > Remember, the Taliban is primarily non-Afghan.
> >
> > H.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Will Swain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 2:04 AM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: RE: Taliban abandons city of Jalalabad
> >
> >
> > many of the fighters have switched sides countless times and will do so
> > again. unfortunately i think its more to do with revenge and blood lust
> > than
> > anything else.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Nick McClure [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: 15 November 2001 03:26
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: RE: Taliban abandons city of Jalalabad
> >
> >
> > Part of the reason they kill them instead of drive them out; They go and
> > hide in the mountains and will the perform hit and run Guerilla and
> > suicide
> > missions. This is what the Northern Alliance did to the Russians.
> Finally
> > they left because the loss was becoming greater than the gains.
> >
> > That and you would probably do the same knowing that these people killed
> > your family because you would not support them. The list goes on.
> >
> > While I am not saying it is right. At the same time if I were in the
> > position I would probably do the same.
> >
> > At 02:46 PM 11/14/2001 -0500, you wrote:
> > >Yeah. They need to be very careful as they set up their new government.
> > And
> > >while I understand the desire for revenge, I wish that they didn't feel
> > the
> > >need to kill the taliban soldiers and mutilate their bodies. Why not
> > drive
> > >them out or jail them, depending upon their previous actions, and let
> the
> > >culprits deal with their own guilty consciences?
> > >
> > >Erin
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 
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