Oh, there are some really nasty kids out there, for sure. I still remember an incident involving a ten year old I picked up by the scruff of the neck. He had been punching my son, who was three at the time. The mother's take was that my son must have done something to deserve it and who was I to lay hands on her son? I didn't do anything to him but stop him from hitting a child less than half his age, mind you. So yes, such families are out there, and not all children are innocent.
But if the training was helpful to you, perhaps it would be to most teachers, especially if mainstreaming continues to be the norm.And before someone chimes in to tell me how much training teachers must already have for how little pay, I think the low pay is an issue too. Or hey, would could just take another look at public education, the better choice in my opinion. Dana On 4/25/05, Jim Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 9:16 PM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: Re: just plain wrong > > > > If you are going to mainstream problem children. and this is the case > > whether this particular kid is a problem kid or not, then they > > *should* be trained to deal with thse things. Jim apparently was... > > Just to clear on this: I worked with kids in upstate New York for a little > under four years (before I moved to Boston where, unfortunately I couldn't > afford to live with those jobs). It's a shame that I made nearly twice as > much money working at 7-Eleven. > > I was trained to handle special needs kids by the local Mental Health > Association to work in their Respite Care program. > > For this I needed to learn Pediatric CPR (sometimes called "Community CPR" > because it covers all ages), Advanced First Aid, Pediatric Restraint and > become a Mandated Reporter. There were other classes and such, but those > were the certifications I needed. > > At the same time I also ran programs (the after school program and the > creative crafts summer camp program) for the local YMCA. > > For this position (working with "regular" kids) all I needed in the way of > training was Pediatric CPR (oh - we went through a "Project Adventure" cycle > as well and I needed to do a quick "Live Saving" course because we had a > pond at the camp). > > So - in short - working with regular kids generally requires relatively > little training while working with special needs kids requires more training > (the exact training required varies from state to state). > > Adding in the fear of litigation I think public school teachers trained in > restraint would probably be pretty rare. > > In my case my extended training helped IMMENSELY in all the work with > children I did. I rarely needed the "advanced" skills in my work for the > YMCA, but on the rare occasions that I need them I was truly thankful for > them. > > It was also helpful to straddle both organizations - for example we had one > kid in the after school program that simply wasn't fit for that environment. > He had severe rage and impulse compulsion issues and had picked up some > really nasty racist tendencies. > > Although we had to drop him from that program we were able to enroll him the > same respite care program I was involved in (where he became one of "my" > kids in that program). In that program he once slashed me with a kitchen > knife making his removal from the after school program a much less > guilt-laden memory. > > Jim Davis > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:155353 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
