I agree that if Macromedia ignores the community, it will upset all of us.
I haven't seen that yet, though.  So far they seem to be responding to the
community fairly well.

~Simon

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-----Original Message-----
From: Nick McClure [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 10:59 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: House of Fusion Picture Gallery


I think a company forgetting the people that made them successful is
important.

Maybe that is something we need to understand. We didn't make MM 
successful, we helped Allaire. Now that it is MM they seem to have other 
things to worry about.

I have been working with CF now for about 4 years. I have seen the company 
grow. I know some people have been working even longer. I remember one guy 
saying that he remembers calling the Tech support and getting Jeremy.

But those days are gone. They have more people, and a more robust product.

But when the people behind the product start to do things that alienate 
some of their major supporters, especially when the product is not the most 
popular, they will start to lose their support base. We have a lot of 
choices. Everybody I have seen posting to these different lists is 
intelligent and if they needed to they could move to a different language.

A company like MM can loose a lot of customers, but alienating people. The 
Web Development community seems to be very close. There are supporters of 
different languages, apps, methods, etc. But on the whole politics still 
determines what people go with.

I am going to use whatever language is best for the project I am working 
on. If I am doing an analysis for a project and I find that CF is the best 
choice, I will use it. But if it is close, I might go for something else. 
It all depends on how MM treats their customers.

At 10:11 AM 11/20/2001 -0500, you wrote:
>well, politics tends to put me off whether they're to do with Macromedia,
>Microsoft, or my own company.  I guess it's just something that comes with
>the territory... especially when there are passionate supporters of the
>product(s) and group(s) involved.  Sorry to have misread your original
post,
>though.  Personally, I'd try to take it with a grain of salt.  I think
>everyone who is worked up about all of this, just needs to take a little
>break from their coding, think about whether or not all this is worth
>getting upset about, and then carry on (with a smile).

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