Even MacNamara admitted that Vietnam was FUBAR.

--- On Thursday, June 30, 2005 5:05 PM, William Bowen scribed: ---
>
>> We would have won Kennedy's Vietnam War if it weren't for Fonda,
>> Kerry and people like you.
> 
> So fighting the war for the wrong reasons and with the wrong strategy
> and misinterpreting and underestimating the strength of resolve of our
> enemies had nothing at all to do with the outcome of Vietnam?
> 
> Puh-friggin'-lease
> 
> Sam, this is a particularly short-sited and over-simplified view out
> _that_ particular conflict, even for you...
> 
> Oh and it started out as Eisenhower's war...and before that it was
> France's war. 

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