On 7/3/05, Gruss Gott wrote: > There's 2 things here, and I'll take the second one first, > "demoralizing America": > > (1) > The greatest things an American can do is speak out against his > government - it's the ultimate patriotic act, besides dying for that > right. > > The concept that publicly disagreeing with your gov't in times of war > is wrong is the principle every dictatorship throughout history has > used to control its people. First you say, "because of war you cannot > speak free." Then we say, "because of war, you cannot act free". > Finally, "because of war you cannot live free."
Speaking out against soldiers while they're on the battlefield is patriotic? Spiting on returning soldiers while calling them baby killers is patriotic? Telling the enemy during times of war that they are right and we are wrong is patriotic? Didn't Hollywood side with Hitler at first? > This extends to GitMo where we hold prisoners without due process. > Legally they aren't owed it, even by the Geneva Convention, IMO, and > typically during war POWs have no rights unless a crime is committed > within the camp. That is all reasonable. > What does your new best friend think of this? The prisoners in Gitmo didn't honor the Geneva Convention so it does not apply to them. > The problem comes in when you define war as forever. Now the act of > denying due process becomes a state imposed policy. It is for that > reason that I would say the "war on terror" is not a "war" and we > should be demonstrating to the world the principles we hold dear which > the terrorists are opposing. This is what won the Cold War. Military build up won that war. But that was not a real war, just an expression. > (2) > What's a Liberal? You love everything Clinton did but hate the SS plan Bush borrowed from Clinton. So I'm saying you love everything Clinton did no matter how good or bad and hate everything Bush does no matter what it is. So I call that an anti-Bush Liberal. Since most non-Republicans don't stand for anything except the opposite of what Bush says I just call them Liberals. Easier for me than to sub-categorize everyone. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:163180 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
