1. The US is not a signatory of the Geneva Convention. 2. From our classes, and we never went into articles, us dumb grunts don't need to know that sort of stuff, we were told that if they weren't in uniform and they weren't carrying a government issued military id card than they were saboteurs or spies and could be summarily executed.
Now of course I went to basic training almost a decade ago. Not sure if things have changed since than, but I doubt it. Tim > -----Original Message----- > From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 1:26 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: speaking of > > > Sam wrote: > > > > The prisoners in Gitmo didn't honor the Geneva Convention so it does > > not apply to them. > > Could you elaborate as to which part of the Geneva Conventions > you are referring to? I can not reconcile that statement with > what I read in them. > > Many of the people in Gitmo are to be considered PoWs under > article 4a2 and 4a5 of the Third Geneva Convention. Any > disagreement as to whether certain detainees can claim to be PoW > has to be resolved following the procedures under article 5 of > said convention. Until such proceedings have resolved the issue > the detainees are to be considered PoWs. > Proceedings under article 5 have not taken place so everybody > claiming to be a PoW is to be considered a PoW and to be treated as such. > > Furthermore there are those in Gitmo who are labelled > 'saboteurs'. Even if we accept that label these people are still > protected unther the Geneva Conventions. Under article 5 of the > Fourth Geneva Convention these people are to be considered > protected people that have lost their communication rights for as > long as required for the security detaining party. All other > rights remain intact, and one can hardly claim that it is still > in the interest of US state security not to permit these people > the communication privileges normal PoWs have. > > > If you feel I have missed something in my summary of the position > of the Geneva Conventions on the people detained in Gitma, please > be specific as to which articles of which convention you feel I > have missed. > > Jochem > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:164332 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
